Asperger treatment clinics

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I hate to say it, but welcome to the world of government bureocracy. Perhaps it will make more sense if you realize that the individual social worker doesn't really make a decision. All the questions you are asked are basically pre-formated. Sounds like you may have had a social worker who was trying to help you answer the questions correctly. Think of it like a huge flow chart, starting with you walking in the door/picking up the phone...., and finishing with two possibilities - deny benefits or approve benefits. There is a huge logic tree seperating the start and end points, with some loops. Most branches of the logic tree lead to denial of benefits. Basically, you need to answer the questions the "right" way to end up with benefits. Doesn't matter if this makes sense to you or the social worker.

Yes, I know. But her ignorance, coupled with her constant telling me that she knows so I should learn from her, drove me berserk. I am extremely sensitive to people trying to play me for a fool so they can feel better about themselves. Story of my life, that's why.

It did not sound like the social worker understood the difference between psychology and neurology, psychology dealing with how the brain responds to stimuli, and neurology dealing with the actual physical structure of the brain and nerves.

Trying to treat a neurological difference with a psychological solution is like trying to explain to a dog that it is a cat.

She tried to convince me that I was mentally sick, and she wanted me to put myself in treatment by some psychiatrist. I told her psychiatrists don't treat Asperger's. She continued insisting that they do. Then, when she finally agreed to take a look at the diagnosis letter (I was hoping she'd learn something from it) she says: "Ahaha! See? It's written by a Psychiatrist, and it says "disorder" - therefore I'm right!" I just rolled my eyes.

Well she is right! Inventors's Online Clinic can help you.

For a minor service fee of $100 a day, governments will pay for treatment, AS can be dealt with.

It is not a minor problem, treatment can take many years, but the results are worth it.

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She also said "I'm not saying that you necessarily need to be hospitalized for your AS, of course, but...blah blah blah"

Next time she starts it again, and I'm sure she will try again, I'll tell her that she needs to be hospitalized for her Jewishness. Afterall, if a different neurology needs hospitalization, then black people need to recover from blackness and Jews need to recover from jewishness and women need to be cured from femaleness. We're all discriminated minorities in exactly the same way. If one minority must be hospitalized and called "sick" then all minorities must.

Well, there are therapies and stuff to help with certain aspects of AS, maybe she meant those kinds of treatments?

No, she said psychiatric treatment, in a doctor's clinic. And those places that help with certain aspects of AS: she should've checked with me first about my areas of impairment. It so happens that none of those places help develop ToM, which is my area of severe impairment. You can't develop ToM in an Aspie neurology with today's scientific knowledge - and it'd certainly be ridiculous to start trying to make me grow a ToM at age 48. Regarding basic social skills: those are taught to Aspie children, not people in their forties or fifties.

I suggest you need to look at this from the perspective of the Government, and the policy framework that this SW is working in. The Government is in the business of getting people off social assistance wherever possible. (Though not always for the best of reasons).

Are you disabled from employment? If you are applying for income support benefits, then it sounds to me as if you are. But a diagnosis of AS alone is not enough to demonstrate a disability from employment--there needs to be an assessment of impairment (which may be already present in your diagnosis).

Is this disability amenable to medical treatment? No--but it's going to require a medical opinion, not a layperson's opinion to say so. Even a renowned clinical psychologist is not competent to give a medical opinion, and you may need to sit down with a psychiatrist to get the piece of paper that says, "there is no medical treatment for AS."

Is this disability amenable to other therapeutic treatment? This might be entirely possible. It depends upon how profound your social deficits are, and the degree to which you are cognitively able to overcome them. This is where the crunch comes. The Government's interest would be in your pursuing these therapies so that you can develop the coping skills to overcome your disability. If you and the SW are talking two different languages about "treatment" then the misunderstanding is going to work against you--because it is the Government that gets to make the decision about whether or not you are eligible for support.

Actually, she's not with social security but with the welfare ministry. Her job is to help me make sure I get the social security benefits. She was only trying to be helpful and telling me that social security would be a lot more in my favor if I showed good will to get better from my AS sickness. I told her that social security would NEVER expect someone with AS to undergo any kind of treatment, because the ones at social security are Psychiatrists, and they know what AS is - unlike her. She later admitted that she knows nothing about getting social security for AS. I was nice to her because I know she was just trying to help, but I kept firm. People who try to teach me what they have no clue about, and all this "trust me, I know and you don't" stuff - drives me nuts.

By the way, maybe an NT here can explain why one gov't entity is there to help you fight for your rights with another gov't entity. To me, it sounds stupid, since it's all gov't. Probably it has to do with "human nature" as NTs put it when they explain to us these illogical laws, and the fact that because employees are people, ridiculous social stuff has to be taken into account such as politics and herds and clans, so one ends up having one ministry help you against another ministry.

Or maybe it's all just a game to make the poor citizen believe that all kinds of gov't offices are there to help them.

I still think it's hilarious to have one ministry have to help you to get the help you need from another ministry.

This is one of those situations where you have to put your personal feelings and opinions to one side and do what has to be done. I spent most of 2009 jumping through hoops, filling in forms and attending medical assessments to get incapacity benefit. It was a nightmare but they're starting to leave me alone now. My money recently went up and I'm very happy .

With government welfare, everything is a cross examination. If you give them a load of attitude about Asperger's Syndrome not being an illness, they will quite happily take you at face value and deny your claim. Just go through the motions and get the money you need to live on.

I may not be an NT, but I am a public servant thrice over. Basically, different government agencies (even at the same level) actually operate independently, and don't really talk to each other much. Thus, you may end up with conflicting messages, or have one agency that helps you navigate the maze that another creates.

I can see better now where you were coming from, but I don't know about structuring dx criteria to serve the idiocy of the lowest-common-denominator bureaucrat who is probably going to misinterpret them no matter how they're written. I do get that you're worrying about survival, though.

When I applied for SSDI in the USA it was on the basis of 2 specific impairments -- the term "chronic fatigue syndrome" by itself wasn't taken as sufficient to explain my functioning level. That bureaucrat you saw sounds so thick that it wouldn't help, but hopefully your dx in 2012 will be like "mild autism: cannot maintain employment so as to survive, etc" and other details.

Maybe the names of the conditions in the DSM should be removed, so that only the code numbers are used. That way no clerk could simply read the name and think he/she knows anything about it...

In my case because I'd seen my GP and various clinics for depression, anxiety, stress management over the years, tried different anti depressants before AS dx,

That was enough to say I have a condition which is stable but no treatments can make it so that I can work in current workplace conditions in the next 2 years so that was how I got the Disability Pension here.

I find it better to play their game and get what I'm entitled to.

With employment agencies and rehab I got them to pay for things like a short Website Design course and a book on Asperger's.