I feel stupid for this, nearly got sued

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06 Dec 2009, 11:54 pm

I think this is why most insurance companies tell you to only exchange other vital information with the other party, and not talk about anything else.

This sounds like a nightmare.



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07 Dec 2009, 12:14 am

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She was trying to intimidate you because her party was at fault...


exactly my thought. The person doing the rear ending is always at fault. When SG didn't seem to realize this she saw a way to get over on her and went in for the 'sue' and 'back injury'. The camera and the recording device . . . I hope this IS the last you see of her, SG.


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07 Dec 2009, 12:24 am

This lady is starting to seem more and more evil....The supposed recording device may not have even been real...We should use our collective conciousness to wish harm/justice against the lady that did the rear ending...Sorry if that is going overboard.


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07 Dec 2009, 12:53 am

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This lady is starting to seem more and more evil....The supposed recording device may not have even been real...We should use our collective conciousness to wish harm/justice against the lady that did the rear ending...Sorry if that is going overboard.


well, not 'evil' like Adolph Hitler was 'evil', but definately prepared for an accident. As for wishing harm on the lady that was caught up in a fender bender I know that is going beyond what the rules of WP allow. :)

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07 Dec 2009, 1:00 am

I should probably just shut up already, but if the tape recorder was fake... I am beginning to see the incident in a new light. :evil:


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07 Dec 2009, 1:01 am

Personally, I feel sorry for this woman. If she can only see things in terms of being sued or suing someone else, she must lead a very sad and unfulfilling life. I think this is a far worse handicap than Asperger's Syndrome.



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07 Dec 2009, 1:30 am

you got swindled. They were at fault for following too close behind. they were threatening you when THEY were at fault. I hope you got their licence number, etc. I would immediately contact the police and file an accident report stating the full info. On top of them being responcible for the accident, and thier insurance should pay to do any repairs on your vehicle, they should also be ticketed for following too close,causing an accident, and be charged with making intimidation threats.

Even if she was actually recording your conversation, if all was recorded, it would implicate her as the at fault person in the accident, and also of the other things like intimidating you, etc.



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07 Dec 2009, 1:53 am

It sounds like a novel scam. Did you see an insurance card or license? The whole scam might have been to scare you out of exposing her. Did she get away without giving you any info at all?

I'm pretty sure that you can still call the police without it being a problem. Just say that you've never been in a fender-bender before and that you didn't know what to do.

If she has insurance, I would think that her insurance should fix your car.

Your "mental condition" is not relevant and shouldn't be mentioned at all.

Did you see the third car, and do you have any information about it?



07 Dec 2009, 3:10 am

No I didn't get her lisence number. I didn't even have my phone either and I didn't even know what to do in the situation. I am never good in them. I didn't see any insurance card and she didn't see mine. I don't know why she did all that stuff. If she does decide to go after me, I can still tell my side to the police. I assure the tape recorder was real because I saw the film rolling as she was speaking into it.

Now I bet she is thinking how gullible I was and stupid. But I don't care because I will never see her again. What are the chances? Plus I look young so she knew she could take advantage of me figuring I don't have much life experiance yet and know all the laws. No way would she have known I have AS and go "oh I can trick her and weasel my way out of this since I heard they are gullible and naive."

The third car just drove on so no information.

Besides I think when a car in front of you starts driving off fast, don't drive off fast too behind them because they could stop all of a sudden and you crash into them so leave them some space. I never do that with other cars when they take off in front of me because I never know if the person might stop all of a sudden.

Net time I will just say "Go ahead, sue me" since I now know what the law is about rare ending people.
Why be afraid of being sued if you knew you weren't at fault? But I know you can still lose even if you weren't at fault because sometimes the people have cunning lawyers and it takes a stupid judge to have the bad guys win.



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07 Dec 2009, 4:13 am

I would of had a meltdown straight if that was me as i'm not such a patient person... But also she sounded like a really mean person, which it would of made me angry.

What was the point of her taking pictures? That is just rather stupid and without your consent...

That's why i would avoid driving a car anyways, but its expensive in London. :( ....If i did end up going to court, i would have to end up talk about it in detail, but in any case, i would of most likely to win the case unless she would come up with excuses.

In london, i don't think you would get arrested for it, however, it would be a really stupid reason to sue you. However you would most likely to charge you... However, i've not really heard of something like that before, that's rather pretty shocking.

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07 Dec 2009, 4:32 am

Did she want money from you in place of suing? Sounds like she is not crazy but a scam artist. I wonder how many other "accidents" she has claimed against people. If she contacts you, I would tell her to go ahead and sue - she would then have to prove damage as well as you being at fault which you were not. If she does sue, check court records to see how many times she has done this before as evidence of fraud.


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07 Dec 2009, 4:40 am

And what's funny is people can be nice but yet be a b***h at the same time or mean. She wasn't hollering at me or screeching or screaming. If she did that, that might have put me in shut down mode or a meltdown. I don't do good with yelling. Sometimes I shut down, sometimes I just scream back like I did when I was a kid because I loved arguments and always had to win but it always depend on the situation. I wouldn't stop until the other person shut up.

In the USA you can sue people about over anything. Even stupid people win cases even if they were the ones at fault. All it takes is a stupid judge and a cunning lawyer.



07 Dec 2009, 4:52 am

sufi wrote:
Did she want money from you in place of suing? Sounds like she is not crazy but a scam artist. I wonder how many other "accidents" she has claimed against people. If she contacts you, I would tell her to go ahead and sue - she would then have to prove damage as well as you being at fault which you were not. If she does sue, check court records to see how many times she has done this before as evidence of fraud.



If I were better in social situations, I would have told her straight out why the heck were they so close behind me or started going fast too without leaving us space? And I would have told her I don't want any money from her. I also would have asked her why does she want money. But I never thought of these things then during the situation. That's why I say I suck in them. Sometimes words come out of my mouth wrong too like instead of saying something, I say it totally different and that can create misunderstandings. It happens to me more than other people I think. I know everyone miss speaks.


If she sues, she can go right ahead. I will remember this in detail.
She never got my phone number or anything. But she got my name. But I don't think my new name is listed in the phone book yet. I haven't looked and she thought I was from Montana and I didn't care to correct her by saying I live here. I have a Montana License plate because my car is under my dad's name and he lives there. I couldn't get Oregon lisence plates here because it was under my dad's name. But I do have a Oregon's driver's lisence but she didn't get that information from me. She kept asking me if I am sure I want to do this and I said "yes." Then she finally said she be sueing me. The camera, the tape recorder, looks skeptical like she has been in these sorts of situations so she likes to be prepared. I just thought then she has ran into dishonest people so she likes to protect herself. Now I think it's her way was manipulating and scaring people. I wonder how long she keeps the evidence?

How do you even check her court records?



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07 Dec 2009, 9:05 am

You can check into someone at publicdata.com but you need their information- either name or license plate, etc. I'm sorry that I suggested the tape recorder was fake....I get carried away. I still really hate that lady for taking advantage.


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07 Dec 2009, 9:22 am

Well, live and let learn :wink:


Sadly, I don't think there is anything I could do about it now. I didn't think of writing down her lisence plate number. What could the police do about it if I called them or my insurance company?



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07 Dec 2009, 9:54 am

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No I didn't get her lisence number. I didn't even have my phone either and I didn't even know what to do in the situation. I am never good in them. I didn't see any insurance card and she didn't see mine.

I bet she was driving without insurance! That would explain why she was so desperate to manipulate you into not calling the cops or getting her info or anything.. or maybe her car was stolen? Something seriously shady was going on.
Obviously I don't know the specific laws in your state, but I've never heard of a place where the person who rear ends somebody isn't always at fault. Unless you were actually going backwards, she was completely at fault. It would be totally counter-productive to hold the person in the front responsible--then you'd have people being hesitant to stop if a kid jumped out into traffic or something. Her own evidence, the pictures she took of her front bumper and your back bumper, would show that she was at fault. She can't sue you for her back injury if she was at fault for the accident. I think that what you said about stopping quickly so you wouldn't hit somebody else was fine-- you did what you were supposed to do, which is not hit the person in front of you! Her lawsuit threat wasn't real, it was just to get you to agree that there'd be no lawsuits, because you could have had grounds to sue her.