What if everyone in the world were autistic?

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05 Jan 2010, 3:08 pm

I think the world would likely collapse or at least it would not be as good as many here think. We need NT's and they need us. It takes all kinds to run the world.

Besides, I wonder if there were no NT's and only Aspies and Auties, I would imagine the Aspies telling us Auties that our behavior is inappropriate, etc. We would become the "new Aspies" and the Aspies would become the "new NT's." J/k in this paragraph. However, I mean what I said in the first paragraph.


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05 Jan 2010, 3:15 pm

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imagine if only most of us were autistic. The NTs would be the minorities.


Then they would be the ones with a "disorder", the ones who are bad at socialising and the ones who are left out. Would be good for everyone who discriminates against us to know how that feels.



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05 Jan 2010, 3:17 pm

cyberscan wrote:
I think the world would likely collapse or at least it would not be as good as many here think. We need NT's and they need us. It takes all kinds to run the world.

Besides, I wonder if there were no NT's and only Aspies and Auties, I would imagine the Aspies telling us Auties that our behavior is inappropriate, etc. We would become the "new Aspies" and the Aspies would become the "new NT's." J/k in this paragraph. However, I mean what I said in the first paragraph.

Oh, I think the second paragraph holds as much truth as the first. "All 'round nice person" is not part of the AS criteria.
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Then they would be the ones with a "disorder", the ones who are bad at socialising and the ones who are left out. Would be good for everyone who discriminates against us to know how that feels.

If NT's still existed then they'd adapt, they'd use their social skills to advance and integrate. Don't forget a lot of us aspies are naive in personal interactions, NT's would be able to easily take advantage of that.



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05 Jan 2010, 3:33 pm

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cyberscan wrote:
I think the world would likely collapse or at least it would not be as good as many here think. We need NT's and they need us. It takes all kinds to run the world.

Besides, I wonder if there were no NT's and only Aspies and Auties, I would imagine the Aspies telling us Auties that our behavior is inappropriate, etc. We would become the "new Aspies" and the Aspies would become the "new NT's." J/k in this paragraph. However, I mean what I said in the first paragraph.

Oh, I think the second paragraph holds as much truth as the first. "All 'round nice person" is not part of the AS criteria.
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Then they would be the ones with a "disorder", the ones who are bad at socialising and the ones who are left out. Would be good for everyone who discriminates against us to know how that feels.

If NT's still existed then they'd adapt, they'd use their social skills to advance and integrate. Don't forget a lot of us aspies are naive in personal interactions, NT's would be able to easily take advantage of that.


NT's would have no problems in being as social as aspies if they had no choice, it wouldn't be a problem.



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05 Jan 2010, 3:34 pm

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What if everyone in the world were autistic?

If everyone was, then nobody would be.

That's completely false. Autism would be considered the norm but that doesn't change that it would still be autism.

Which is exactly what I meant. You explained it perfectly except for saying it was false. It would still exist but it would just be the norm.

I based it off a line from the Incredibles:

"...And I will sell my inventions to everybody, so they can be super too. And when everyone's super... no one will be."



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05 Jan 2010, 3:39 pm

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Then they would be the ones with a "disorder", the ones who are bad at socialising and the ones who are left out. Would be good for everyone who discriminates against us to know how that feels.

If NT's still existed then they'd adapt, they'd use their social skills to advance and integrate. Don't forget a lot of us aspies are naive in personal interactions, NT's would be able to easily take advantage of that.


I disagree. Remember, when talking with other Aspies we can be just as good at socialising as NTs talking to NTs, just in a different way. So if the world was all Aspies with NTs as a minorities, they would be the ones who socialise differently to everyone else, and would therefore have to do what we do now: try their best to adapt, but get stressed out, confused, and all the rest of it. They would therefore have the disadvantage when it comes to socialising, because we would be the ones with "social skills".



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05 Jan 2010, 3:45 pm

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05 Jan 2010, 3:50 pm

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I disagree. Remember, when talking with other Aspies we can be just as good at socialising as NTs talking to NTs, just in a different way. So if the world was all Aspies with NTs as a minorities, they would be the ones who socialise differently to everyone else, and would therefore have to do what we do now: try their best to adapt, but get stressed out, confused, and all the rest of it. They would therefore have the disadvantage when it comes to socialising, because we would be the ones with "social skills".


With respect, I think you're missing an important element. While many Aspies can be good at socializing in narrow context, many of us are completely clueless about socializing outside of a framework in which we are comfortable, whereas NTs often have stronger skills at socialization across the board.

This means that the 1 NT in a room otherwise full of Aspies is more likely to find common ground with each of them, where as the Aspies are still constrained to each of our respective comfort zones.


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05 Jan 2010, 3:53 pm

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I disagree. Remember, when talking with other Aspies we can be just as good at socialising as NTs talking to NTs, just in a different way. So if the world was all Aspies with NTs as a minorities, they would be the ones who socialise differently to everyone else, and would therefore have to do what we do now: try their best to adapt, but get stressed out, confused, and all the rest of it. They would therefore have the disadvantage when it comes to socialising, because we would be the ones with "social skills".


With respect, I think you're missing an important element. While many Aspies can be good at socializing in narrow context, many of us are completely clueless about socializing outside of a framework in which we are comfortable, whereas NTs often have stronger skills at socialization across the board.

This means that the 1 NT in a room otherwise full of Aspies is more likely to find common ground with each of them, where as the Aspies are still constrained to each of our respective comfort zones.


While that may be true to an extent, I still think that NTs would be disadvantaged in day-to-day life in this situation, even if they may not be as disadvantaged as we are.



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05 Jan 2010, 4:33 pm

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What if everyone in the world were autistic?

If everyone was, then nobody would be.
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05 Jan 2010, 5:00 pm

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This means that the 1 NT in a room otherwise full of Aspies is more likely to find common ground with each of them, where as the Aspies are still constrained to each of our respective comfort zones.

Doesn't describe me. I'm best at 'socialising' with either Aspies, or Enties I've only just met. The mainissue I have the enties is that they form cliques, which more often than not I'm not a part of.



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05 Jan 2010, 5:24 pm

In a way, then we'd be the NTs. :P And any person that wasn't autistic would actually be called "autistic." :?: 8O :? Wow, that's probably my most confusing post ever.


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05 Jan 2010, 5:48 pm

We would all be dealing with a lot more acceptance for our differences.


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06 Jan 2010, 2:35 am

We'd talk for a while about how great things were going to be, and make many wonderful plans. Then a war would break out over a poorly written sentence. We'd get back on track, but before talk turned into action, we'd get stuck watching the same scene from a movie 20 times in a row. After that, we'd try to plan again, but get confused at step three because of our inability to follow through on plans.


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06 Jan 2010, 6:13 am

It could make the jobs market a lot more reasonable. Job descriptions would have to lose the word "flexibility" 8) Unclear instructions would be a thing of the past 8) Multi-tasking would not be expected 8) Each worker would be given their own private, quiet space over which they would have control 8) Jobseekers could be really picky and insist on work that was tailored much more closely to their own individual needs, without getting thrown off benefit. 8) There would be no workplace cliques or office politics 8)

But maybe not - possibly there would still be a hierarchy with the ones at the top making ridiculous demands of everybody else just like they do now.

I don't know if Aspies could work together as effectively as NTs or not - naturally if they couldn't, a lot of stuff wouldn't get done. I like to think that Aspies are more likely to prefer co-operation to competition, but who knows?



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06 Jan 2010, 6:27 am

There would be a website for NTs called RightPlanet. :lol:


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