Do you hold animals as equals or higher than humans?

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I see animals and humans as equal because humans ARE technically animals and aren't some seperate entity that has nothing to do with nature.
I don't like PETA at all because they completely went out of hand and they throw a fit over the tiniest things "oh no obama swatted a fly!! WAAAAAAAAA!" and they think it's cruel to eat animals which it isn't because people are omnivores in other words we eat meat and vegetables, also if other animals eat eachother they aren't bothered then. So they say they treat animals as equals when really they're reinforcing the myth that humans are superior because animals eat eachother but then if we eat an animal it's wrong because we aren't animals, which we are but you know what I mean.

I think animals are equal in value, life-wise. But I find animals to be better companions than humans. But I think humans are deemed to be more valuable because they are more valuable, in a sense, to other humans. A human can have a greater impact on the world (usually) than some animals.

I see vertebrates as equals and invertebrates as something that should be treated with respect but kept in check (I have entomophobia).

I'm also against pets, in the sense that the animals are expected to be subserviant. In the case of dogs assuming the role of the alpha is necessary, however, given that no violence is used to obtain that role.
Animals that, unlike cats and dogs, have not been specifically bred to be pets should not be made to undergo such a process. They are born to be wild (booooorn to be wiiiii-iiiiiilllld!) and should remain wild. Animals are at their best and most beautifull in their natural habitat.

That's my view on the matter, anyway.

peta is extremist but i do think that our civilization needs extremists to change. the way we treat animals is so wrong. i agree it is more a question of chickens, cows and pigs than cats and dogs. using animals for meat is bad as using some people for slaves. yes, it is the easiest way but it is so wrong. of course it cheap and easy, they self-replicate, just feed them.
another thing is that a wast bio procedures uses animals for creating enzymes and bio materials for medicine (vaccine) and biotechnology. i know that is inevitable but what really bothers me is the way they are used. most of the experiments are not necessary and are stupid but people perform them because they can.
the only thing that keeps my positive outlook is that the world goes in the right direction, one day we will be better towards animals.

also reading bio-chemistry made me admire even bacteria. the complexity and precision and diversity is absolutely stunning. that should be celebrated and admired not exploited. especcialy selling animals for cheap meat.

I also mostly like animals better than humans. Especially cats, they were my first obsession, and also wolves or Alsatians.

I understand completely holding animals as equals or higher than humans. I agree with it to a point as well. But how many of you, if forced to pick up a gun and shoot a dog or your next door neighbor... would actually choose your neighbor?

This thread makes no sense, humans ARE animals.

IMO, all animals are equal.

*raises hand* The dog is less likely to annoy me.

when I was little other children used my love for animals to make my cry. They would tell me they had put a kitten in a microwave and watched it set on fire and another one in the dryer and turned it on

They would tell me about these thing and putting fire crackers in an animals butt then lighting them.

I was always got upset I ussually had a meltdown. people are so cruel not to just eachothers.

I would shoot my neighbor any day over my dog. Sorry, Juan. I doubt I'd be so sorry if it was our fundemendlist Christian hillbilly neighbors back in Ohio. I wish I would have physicaly attacked the neighbor boy when he beat his dog and when he would poke the rabbit with a stick to make it growl. When I told his mother about the rabbit she said, "Oh he loves that rabbit. He wouldn't hurt it." Luckily she saw it as a burden and let me have it. I had a meltdown because my brother couldn't get there fast enough to get it away from that enviroment.



Kids used to say the same things to me until I started to beat them up for it. Some stupid lady at Petsmart had the nerve to say my bearded dragon was gross. I regret not saying something back such as "Yeah, but at least her ass is prettier than your face." Instead I picked her up, snuggled her and said, "You're not gross."

I once saw some teenagers giggling as they made a poor toad hop back and fourth to each other. Knowing most people I was afraid they would get bored and torture it so when they weren't looking I slipped in and snatched it up, ran home and set it free under a tree. Some stupid kid had found a litlte garter snake the parents claimed they bought in a pet store. Why were they keeping it in a bucket outside then? Someone screamed, "Rip it's head off!" and I feared for the snake's life. I asked if I could hold it, and when they let me I took off with it. I wasn't as in shape as I once was and they grabed me back but luckily it wasn't very far from my house and my parents heard me screaming. I refused to give the snake back until my parents made me. The lady threatned to call the police too. I was so scared for the snake but I don't regret trying to save it. My mom says I accidenly killed it but they were probably going to kill it anyway.

The truth is that humans are hypocrites. We always will be. We will use anything in this world to get what we want because we, for some reason, think we have that right. I find it disturbing that people find animal testing to be necessary as well and can understand when you say that if a person did the same to another person they would be classed as a psychopath. The law is messed up and it always will be. Animals will go on suffering and 99% of the world wont admit it's wrong and those that do will be completely ignored or thought of as being a nuisense to society. We have indeed turned dogs into "mans best victim" (just do your researching on the inbreeding that's happening, and all the dogs that get put down because they were only doing what their instincts told them to do).

There's nothing wrong with you. I agree with most of what you say except that I think animals and humans are equals because we are animals too.

I hold animals MUCH higher.

Animals, for me, are on a higher level than humans in many respects......

They do not abuse their natural habitat.

Their levels of procreation reflect their environment. Having more offspring when times are good, and less when times are bad.

They are not manipulative, conniving, deceitful or greedy, although some behaviour may be seen that way due to humans innate ability to "humanise" animals (Stupid Meerkat Manor!!)

They are driven by their base instincts to survive.......they are not complicated by emotion or conscience.

They are the barometers of the natural world(I am talking of wild animals here).

Yep, I got more in common with my baby girl chihuahua, Coco and my local ant community, than I do with the general population.

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Hear, hear!! !! !!

I am the alpha male in my pack, by the way

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I like people, even more than I did when I was younger. But I relate better to animals, because they do not require annoying niceties and such. I also don't like PETA, and I think their existence is not good for animals.

For all those who say they value animals equal to humans, if you're not a vegetarian keep in mind that you are consuming animals when you eat meat. I'm just sayin'.

And yes, PETA can be extreme sometimes. I have to say that this video was kind of funny though
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