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08 Dec 2004, 1:58 am

I sometimes drool when I sleep, but my lips are often dry, peobably due to a saliva crust.

I don't have that mouth thing... The kid in that photo's mouth is hanging open, and I am not a mouth breather. People should shut their mouths!



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08 Dec 2004, 2:55 am

Yeah, I'm not a mouth breather, either*, but that looks like my mouth, and apparently I had a big problem with drooling as a toddler, but it went away.
I don't have the ears but I do have a large head and ribcage (saying "I've got a large chest" would probably give the wrong impression...)
Thanks for posting the link, ASMAN, it's interesting stuff.


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08 Dec 2004, 7:26 am

Both Dylan and I are mouth breathers but I also had a very narrow nasal passage that I had to have surgery on to widen it so I could breathe better through my nose and Dylan was a mouth breather mainly due to enlargened tonsils and adenoids which were surgically taken care of late Nov. I did notice that he sometimes drools in his sleep, I know I have on occasion.

That article is very interesting, it mentions Dr. Susan Bryson, head of the Autism Research Centre at the IWK Health Centre in coordination with Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. They do an infant sibling study and a few others out of there. Dr. Bryson has become a good support for me and my family. She's been trying to help us get help with respite care so we can get someone to take care of my youngest son so we don't have to take him to speech therapy and other appts. all the time as well as attempting to get more speech therapy for Dylan. Dr. Bryson has been great she is trying to help find someone for me go for official assessment for AS. I do like her outlook on things, she doesn't like to call autism/aspergers a disorder either.



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08 Dec 2004, 11:02 am

JennieRichee wrote:
Yeah, I'm not a mouth breather, either*, but that looks like my mouth, and apparently I had a big problem with drooling as a toddler, but it went away.
I don't have the ears but I do have a large head and ribcage (saying "I've got a large chest" would probably give the wrong impression...)
Thanks for posting the link, ASMAN, it's interesting stuff.


*but possibly a poet :P


Hello, is there a pun on the words I've underlined? It seems to be funny but I don't get it.

People very often say that I look sad. (And I'm not sad as often as they think I am.) I knew about the moebius mouth before, and for years I have been wondering if I had one, and if people thought I was sad because of that kind of mouth.



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08 Dec 2004, 11:02 am

MishLuvsHer2Boys wrote:
Both Dylan and I are mouth breathers but I also had a very narrow nasal passage that I had to have surgery on to widen it so I could breathe better through my nose and Dylan was a mouth breather mainly due to enlargened tonsils and adenoids which were surgically taken care of late Nov. I did notice that he sometimes drools in his sleep, I know I have on occasion.

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I think I had might have had that problem with my ears. My said I had to have tubes inserted twice when I was very young. And that I visited an ENT place a lot. I am not sure about the drooling thing there is a sense of familiarity about, but if I did, I don't think I did it a lot.

PS what would be considered large apphendages(head, hands, feet, nose, or even chest, though not an apphendage) on a person?



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08 Dec 2004, 11:39 am

I got made fun of until I was 7 because I drooled. :oops: (it stopped then)


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08 Dec 2004, 4:54 pm

Corners of my mouth are indeed low, which makes my default "neutral" face expression look somewhat sad or exhausted. However my ears are nothing like those of the kid on the picture.



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08 Dec 2004, 5:18 pm

Well at night I do sometimes wake up with a wet pillow (no, not that; stop it you perverts!) but it's down to having a partially blocked sinus, in my case, and when one dreams of food, say, one tends to salivate (evidence? It's definitely more common if I go to sleep without having fed well!) so having to breath with an open mouth leads to leakage. Happily I was just recently prescribed a gluco cortisoid (nasty stuff really, but this one is inhaled; I'd want a lot of justifications before I accepted such an injection!) which lets me breath more or less adequately, through my nose.

Given that "autism" in the classic sense, is a purely cerebral condition, there's really no reason to suppose it should have physical characteristics, as is demonstrated by the diversity of such attributes connected(?) with AS. If one choses to define autism according to morbidities though, well then, the quacks will need some physical evidence to look for, however contradictory it may be!



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08 Dec 2004, 5:23 pm

MishLuvsHer2Boys wrote:
Both Dylan and I are mouth breathers but I also had a very narrow nasal passage that I had to have surgery on to widen it so I could breathe better through my nose and Dylan was a mouth breather mainly due to enlargened tonsils and adenoids which were surgically taken care of late Nov. I did notice that he sometimes drools in his sleep, I know I have on occasion.


That's a perfectly good reason, actually. Now I understand more. I just thought people did it for no real reason.



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10 Dec 2004, 5:13 pm

The only thing I can think of is that Fragile-X cases have a distictive physical look about them. Large ears+long prominent chin. I commonly have a blank/ticked off expression and it throws people off I think.



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17 Dec 2004, 12:44 am

'One size fits all' hats DO NOT fit me. I think my head is unusually large for a female. My head is bigger around than my dad's by a little more than an inch. :?



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17 Dec 2004, 10:33 pm

gwynfryn wrote:
Well at night I do sometimes wake up with a wet pillow (no, not that; stop it you perverts!) but it's down to having a partially blocked sinus, in my case, and when one dreams of food, say, one tends to salivate (evidence? It's definitely more common if I go to sleep without having fed well!) so having to breath with an open mouth leads to leakage. Happily I was just recently prescribed a gluco cortisoid (nasty stuff really, but this one is inhaled; I'd want a lot of justifications before I accepted such an injection!) which lets me breath more or less adequately, through my nose.

Given that "autism" in the classic sense, is a purely cerebral condition, there's really no reason to suppose it should have physical characteristics, as is demonstrated by the diversity of such attributes connected(?) with AS. If one choses to define autism according to morbidities though, well then, the quacks will need some physical evidence to look for, however contradictory it may be!


Is that like a sinus or allergy thing? I used to have problems with that. I got allergy shots for a couple years that reduced it a great deal. I used to have a problem when I slept to, getting stuffing clogged nose, but when I got a bed that sat high off the ground, it rarely affects me now. What about a misaligned jaw? I had an overbite (braces helped), that made my mouth appear smaller. Of course it is small, it did not have enough room for all my teeth.



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18 Dec 2004, 4:03 am

I also had blocked sinuses, the cause was mainly a deviated septum (the inner part of your nose that divides the two sides was crooked) and enlarged turbinates (not sure what those are, but they are along the walls of the nose inside, and can become irritated by allergens or other things). I had surgery to reduce the problem this summer, and no longer have to take zyrtec D and flonase every night, which is quite nice. I do get stuffy more often than most people still, but it's not nearly as bad, and I sleep a bit better.

I am not allergic to any airborne allergens (I was tested recently). I am very sensitive to fumes and any type of household cleaners, though, so I imagine my nose is just hypersensitive to things like that, because it quickly clogs up in response.

My teeth also hardly fit in my mouth.



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18 Dec 2004, 3:27 pm

Epimonandas wrote:
gwynfryn wrote:
Well at night I do sometimes wake up with a wet pillow (no, not that; stop it you perverts!) but it's down to having a partially blocked sinus, in my case, and when one dreams of food, say, one tends to salivate (evidence? It's definitely more common if I go to sleep without having fed well!) so having to breath with an open mouth leads to leakage. Happily I was just recently prescribed a gluco cortisoid (nasty stuff really, but this one is inhaled; I'd want a lot of justifications before I accepted such an injection!) which lets me breath more or less adequately, through my nose.

Given that "autism" in the classic sense, is a purely cerebral condition, there's really no reason to suppose it should have physical characteristics, as is demonstrated by the diversity of such attributes connected(?) with AS. If one choses to define autism according to morbidities though, well then, the quacks will need some physical evidence to look for, however contradictory it may be!


Is that like a sinus or allergy thing? I used to have problems with that. I got allergy shots for a couple years that reduced it a great deal. I used to have a problem when I slept to, getting stuffing clogged nose, but when I got a bed that sat high off the ground, it rarely affects me now. What about a misaligned jaw? I had an overbite (braces helped), that made my mouth appear smaller. Of course it is small, it did not have enough room for all my teeth.


I've detected fryers that were left on after bedtime (it woke me with watery eyes, and no one else, not even our dog sensed it), gas leaks in cars (immedialetly, maybe a few minutes into driving where the car warmed up, someone had been driving it for a few months without noticing anything wrong, I did the first time I got in it after it had started, mechanical check determined it had been going on for a few months), of course in rooms full of smoke (cigarette smoke,I can't breathe, get watery eyes, just generally miserable), smoke fires, grill outs (probably miles away, I don't even see smoke rising anywhere when I smell it), and such. Its useful for detecting problems that no one else is aware of at least.



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20 Oct 2006, 7:08 pm

I wonder if having both of your front teeth having a stain on them since you were born is one because I have it.



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21 Oct 2006, 12:38 am

dbzgirl wrote:
I wonder if having both of your front teeth having a stain on them since you were born is one because I have it.


That's a sign of fluoridosis (not sure if I spelled that right). It happens to kids that grow up in an area that has highly fluoridated water and/or do like I did and ate toothpaste when I was a kid. I have the fluoride stained teeth too so don't feel bad.