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17 Feb 2010, 9:04 pm

Mikelight wrote:
I feel like this every day of my life. There just isn't enough time in any day ever. I can't go to sleep there is just too much information to find and look at online. Too many of my favorite games to play, too much history to discover. I spend hours and hours online just reading about different subjects. Even if i'm tired as hell I won't go to sleep and I wonder what's wrong with me. Last night I went to sleep at 3:30am, I had to be up at 7am and I spent my entire day feeling tired. i should be getting ready for sleep right now, instead i've got 8 tabs open in my browser just occupying myself with stuff. I have to be at my full time job from 8:30 - 5:30 every day. I have no idea how I manage to get up every day and still function at work when I spent all night awake. Even having a job and responsibilities I find it very very hard to go to sleep when I need to.


I 110% agree to all you have said. 'Theres too much to discover' is as simple as it is for me. Until I can google/wikipedia and RP in my sleep, I doubt my habits will change. :wink:


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17 Feb 2010, 9:08 pm

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I feel exactly the same way, word for word. I'll stay up not because I can't go to sleep but because I'd rather stay up and do things, and to be honest I like it and I don't really want it to change. I'm usually somewhat productive about work when I'm up late. I'll concentrate on something meaningful for a few hours, then maybe something else that's useful, then I'll watch television or read random things online for a while, then one of those things again.

I don't know. I like being awake. I like being alive. Sleeping isn't always consistent with that.

On the other hand, when I actually go to sleep it feels pretty good. I can force myself to go to sleep at more normal times too, although if I'm not careful I can occasionally oversleep and miss an obligation.


Yeah, I don't get it... I love being awake, and being alive, and I don't really want to change these patterns, because I am doing what I do enjoy. I just wish that I could be less tired when operating this way.


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17 Feb 2010, 10:48 pm

What's that saying...early to bed, early to rise...something something.
I go to bed early and get up early and really I feel more energetic.
Actually it can stop overeating if you go to bed early and get up early. I have tested this theory too and it works.
My mum stays up and watches TV with a bag of chips while I'm trying to sleep at 12am.
So yes, if you feel like crap the next day go to bed early. Make it a part of your routine.


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18 Feb 2010, 6:02 am

TouchVanDerBoom wrote:

ToughDiamond wrote:
We are but older children, dear,
Who fret to find our bedtime near
[Lewis Carroll]

I used to find it almost impossible to go to bed until I felt I'd done something that was fun or at least got some work done that might eventually lead to fun. I just didn't like to let the sun go down on a crappy day without trying to turn it round. Just a small indication that I'd cleared a stumbling block with a project would do the trick.


That's exactly how it is for me. How did you overcome it? I find that it's not as bad when I'm happy with my daytime life. I love that quote :)

I am now going to try out this routine: home at 11pm, stay up living and stuff till 6am, go to bed, sleep till 2pm and then get up as though it were morning, get ready for work, leave at 3...


To fix it, I just gave in......there were a few times in succession when I just couldn't think of any way to save the day, and being tired out, I had to let it go :( After discovering that the world didn't collapse as a result, it ceased to be such a big issue. I suppose I came to terms with the fact that some days just suck, though I sometimes think that giving up like that might be exactly the thing I should be avoiding......I suspect that it's important, when fighting depression, to avoid throwing in the towel too often. There's something very uplifting about refusing to accept a bad result, even if it's somewhat crazy to kick against it like that.....I think it's called spirit, and I hope I never run completely out of that stuff.



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18 Feb 2010, 7:27 am

I'm on prescription drugs to sleep. I take Stillnox (Zolpidem). I guess that without it I wouldn't be able to sleep. It is a modern drug and works pretty well, I usually fall asleep within less than 5 minutes, sometimes even sooner. When I was writting my disertation at college I also spent a week without sleeping even taking the medicine due to being nervous! I guess this happens. My adivice is practing sports and taking a long shower and also stretching exercises.



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18 Feb 2010, 8:20 pm

Wedge wrote:
I'm on prescription drugs to sleep. I take Stillnox (Zolpidem). I guess that without it I wouldn't be able to sleep. It is a modern drug and works pretty well, I usually fall asleep within less than 5 minutes, sometimes even sooner. When I was writting my disertation at college I also spent a week without sleeping even taking the medicine due to being nervous! I guess this happens. My adivice is practing sports and taking a long shower and also stretching exercises.


I really wish I had a bigger interest in sports, sometimes. Before a very good friend of mine moved, we would work out together most days of the week and by the time I would get home, I would find myself more tired than normal. Sometimes I'd still pull near-all nighters but for the most part, I was actually content in crashing earlier. I guess maybe I need to find something to occupy my time with during the day that can tire me out, but also feel rewarding enough that I don't want to do 24323245 other things as well. As for prescription meds, I've been on them as well, and my biggest issue is taking them! If I want to stay up, there is little I seem to be able to do to make myself tired. And if I was in this kind of mood and took them? I'd wake up feeling like I missed out on a good night.


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19 Feb 2010, 12:17 pm

I also get myself 5 to 6 hours of sleep a day. It's always hard to stop what I am doing and force myself to go to bed. If i do not do that I'll fall into a 4 hours or less sleep a day. Amazing indeed that it is maintainable. I do get grumpier though. It is hard to stay fresh in the middle of the day, and around 7 pm I have a dip too. When I do sleep long sometimes I feel guilty indeed for sleeping so much precious time away on a free day.
I recocnise the buzz of skipping a night too. It is like drugs indeed.
Lack of sleep does have an effect on my mood in the day, still I can't make myself go to bed.

After thinking about it since I know I am an asperger, I think it has to do with the peacefull quietness of the night. There is so much less distraction around, I get to find my alone time that I need so much easyer in the night as on any other moment of the day.

On holliday , while camping I used to be the last one to go to sleep and the first one to get up. Early mornings also have their quietness. Making a fire and brewing a coffee whilst looking at the last raccoons scurrying around...

Maybe it is a combination of executive functioning trouble and alone time needed by aspies?

On another forum I read about the extra long sleep many aspies spent every night, they sleep often 10 to 11 hours a night. Yust the thought gives me the creeps :)



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19 Feb 2010, 5:01 pm

Mikelight wrote:
There just isn't enough time in any day ever. I can't go to sleep there is just too much information to find and look at online. Too many of my favorite games to play, too much history to discover. I spend hours and hours online just reading about different subjects.


Too true! There's always too much!

Hmm, this reminds me of a little article I once read. Or maybe it was in a book. Well, suppose there was some pill or something you took and you would need no sleep. You took it, and you could stay awake for, I don't know, 48 hours or something. Then you took another one, and another 48 hours. Would you take it? Why?



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19 Feb 2010, 8:08 pm

Rainbow68 wrote:
I also get myself 5 to 6 hours of sleep a day. It's always hard to stop what I am doing and force myself to go to bed. If i do not do that I'll fall into a 4 hours or less sleep a day. Amazing indeed that it is maintainable. I do get grumpier though. It is hard to stay fresh in the middle of the day, and around 7 pm I have a dip too. When I do sleep long sometimes I feel guilty indeed for sleeping so much precious time away on a free day.
I recocnise the buzz of skipping a night too. It is like drugs indeed.
Lack of sleep does have an effect on my mood in the day, still I can't make myself go to bed.

After thinking about it since I know I am an asperger, I think it has to do with the peacefull quietness of the night. There is so much less distraction around, I get to find my alone time that I need so much easyer in the night as on any other moment of the day.

On holliday , while camping I used to be the last one to go to sleep and the first one to get up. Early mornings also have their quietness. Making a fire and brewing a coffee whilst looking at the last raccoons scurrying around...

Maybe it is a combination of executive functioning trouble and alone time needed by aspies?

On another forum I read about the extra long sleep many aspies spent every night, they sleep often 10 to 11 hours a night. Yust the thought gives me the creeps :)


That is a different way to look at it, I never thought of the fact that quiet/peacefulness could be a contributing factor!


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