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idiocratik
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09 Mar 2010, 4:12 am

I'm with you, Punky. I'd be fighting, too. Socialized medicine is anti-American.


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09 Mar 2010, 4:25 am

I am not sure I would want it, I am 25 and have always been an aspie, to me this is normal but
if I have a child I don't know if I would want them to go though the hell I have been though.



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09 Mar 2010, 6:46 am

I'd consider myself fortunate I don't live in America.

But if such a thing were to happen where I live then I'd just move to a country were such practices are not permitted, or at least not enforced.



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09 Mar 2010, 7:57 am

The situation is too far fetched.

First of all, wouldn't the government want to save money on health care?

Why would they force treatment on adults that are considered to be autonomous persons (as in, they do not have a person as their legal guardian), especially if they aren't requesting any therapy or accomodations? What if the person is already a contributing member of society? Why would the government waste the money on rounding people up when those people could be going to College/University or working?

In the case of socialized medicine, there would actually be a higher probability of rejecting you for therapies and radical treatments that are deemed to be unneccesary. If you're capable of walking, talking, using the bathroom on your own, feeding yourself, and going outside without being arrested or dying, then you would have to pay out of pocket for any further treatment.



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09 Mar 2010, 8:03 am

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Well, I've always wanted to see what it would be like to be part of an underground resistance.


yes i think id form a resitence movment and also try to find a preventive ot the cure


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09 Mar 2010, 9:00 am

idiocratik wrote:
I'm with you, Punky. I'd be fighting, too. Socialized medicine is anti-American.


We already have socialized medicine. It's called the ER. Either make it official or don't.



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09 Mar 2010, 9:20 am

It would not matter.
My PDD-NOS has become so mild in the last few years there would be little to no noticeable difference.



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09 Mar 2010, 9:21 am

If it's in the future I don't think we would need guns. AI would probably wade in and take our side,
if we asked it to, in an very Aspi way. :wink:



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09 Mar 2010, 9:25 am

I am unable to consider anything forced upon people as a 'cure', that's an infringement on human rights......



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09 Mar 2010, 10:10 am

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Imagine the not so distant future. Genetists have discovered the gene that causes autism, AS, PDD and all other forms of the spectrum and can "cure" it through a combination of gene therapy, stem cell treatment and radical brain surgery. Obama's heathcare reform became offical decades ago, the goverment tells you what treatments and therapies you can and can't have and even forces them onto people if they deem it necassary. If you refuse the treatment, they have you arrested, commited and make you take it anyway. What would you do in a situation like this? Would you go into hiding, would you go rouge and fight the power or would you commit sucide or take the cure? I think taking the cure would be the same as sucide. I assume guns would be illegal but people would manage to obtain them awayway. My parents made sure I knew basic gun saftey and how to shoot one as young as twelve. If someone tried to have me commited, I'd open fire. Eventuly they'd learn to leave me alone or murder me.


I think I would have the gentleman or gentlemen over for dinner (and a show) and when they were suitably sedated with a special Dr. Lecter cocktail (and duck taped to their wheel chairs), I might treat them to each other's pre frontal lobes, which of course is the seat of good manners so they wouldn't miss it.

Liver and fava beans might also be on the menu if they were especially committed to their work and to curing ME :!:


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09 Mar 2010, 10:14 am

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I don't do hypotheticals. I have trouble enough in the real world.


I think this is one of the most sensible posts I have ever read on WP.


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09 Mar 2010, 10:43 am

Francis wrote:
I don't do hypotheticals. I have trouble enough in the real world.


Amen!

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09 Mar 2010, 11:28 am

Katie_WPG wrote:
The situation is too far fetched.

First of all, wouldn't the government want to save money on health care?

Why would they force treatment on adults that are considered to be autonomous persons (as in, they do not have a person as their legal guardian), especially if they aren't requesting any therapy or accomodations? What if the person is already a contributing member of society? Why would the government waste the money on rounding people up when those people could be going to College/University or working?

In the case of socialized medicine, there would actually be a higher probability of rejecting you for therapies and radical treatments that are deemed to be unneccesary. If you're capable of walking, talking, using the bathroom on your own, feeding yourself, and going outside without being arrested or dying, then you would have to pay out of pocket for any further treatment.


Yes, I am in agreement with Katie- she pretty much says what I was going to say but probably better! If there were a cure I doubt it would be a viable choice for adults already adjusted to their differences. I bet it would only be available to children.

Then we would have fewer people engineering software and computer technology, unless they were undiagnosed. Which leads me to another point- all Aspies are not diagnosed. If they knew about the radical forced cure they may not go to the doctor any more. So does everyone take the cure? Will this cure simply me null on an NT and only work on the autistics? Or will it change the NTs into autistics?



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09 Mar 2010, 11:39 am

Of course it's far fetched.

Am I the only one who thinks I'm better off with aspergers than without it?



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09 Mar 2010, 11:40 am

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I would have to make a decision between running, and turning the situation into tactical warfare. "Over my dead body" would take on literal meaning after I liquidate all of my investments and life savings, spend it on small and medium weapons, and hole myself up somewhere difficult to reach.


South Central LA :?: or perhaps..............the mountains of Waziristan


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09 Mar 2010, 11:45 am

MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:
Of course it's far fetched.

Am I the only one who thinks I'm better off with aspergers than without it?


This is a very polarizing question which has been asked a few times before, sometimes as a thread title.

Some manage quite well despite the social impairment, especially if academically/intellectually well above average or gifted.

For those, life with impaired social skills is like a parrot without a bicycle and if they are lucky, with a few friends.

Others have not been dealt quite the same hand and do genuinely struggle.

To answer your question (although I appreciate it may have been rhetorical :D )

I am better off with it............but it isn't always easy, especially with family...... :roll:


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