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10 Mar 2010, 6:10 am

I copy others, too.
But it is part of my obsessions with things.
I used to be somewhat obsessed with Naruto and I would buy Naruto things and they were great.



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10 Mar 2010, 7:05 am

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You don't have to dislike social contact to have AS. It is a disorder of poor social skills, not necessarily lack of desire for social contact.


You may no longer desire social contact because you still don't understand how and after years of trying and failing you may discover that the social contact you do have is exhausting. That's why I no longer try. I'm happier too.


Yes, hence my wording "not necessarily lack of desire for social contact".


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10 Mar 2010, 7:26 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
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Who_Am_I wrote:

You don't have to dislike social contact to have AS. It is a disorder of poor social skills, not necessarily lack of desire for social contact.


You may no longer desire social contact because you still don't understand how and after years of trying and failing you may discover that the social contact you do have is exhausting. That's why I no longer try. I'm happier too.


Yes, hence my wording "not necessarily lack of desire for social contact".

Sorry, it's morning here. :)



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10 Mar 2010, 11:07 am

I don't think that there's anything fake about me. It's all real, as far as I'm concerned. 8)


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10 Mar 2010, 11:28 am

Before my teens I was all natural, but since that was never good enough I learned bits and pieces from other girls and flat out imitated the ones I liked the best. Later I tried integrating my oddity with an "excentric" persona, as nobody seemed to accept the phony "normal" me. I was still pretending though. After my teens I was more successful in relationships (one on one), but I still played a part, especially adapted to keep my boyfriend interested, though I couldn't always keep it up and when I couldn't I became insecure, anxious and obsessive.

It's only now after my diagnosis I've begun to let go of all my imitations and it's very difficult. I'm at the point where I can't really tell what's me and what's fake. I try to observe myself when I'm with my kids, because I've never pretended around them.

I guess it's possible to fake so well you fool yourself. Or maybe it's just me. :?



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10 Mar 2010, 2:07 pm

JHenry2848 wrote:
The quote in your sig kinda makes aspies sound like intentional hermets who want to be left alone and enjoy it. Im not a diagnosed aspie, but I am very lonely and extremely socially awkward. Always questioning things like making good eye contact and how my facial expresions should look like when talking to someone. Even though i dont "get" socialising, I would still like to have relationships.


The quote in my signature? I didn't quote that because I believe it speaks for people with asperger's. I quoted it because I find it amusing, and because I am often repulsed by social relationships. I'm always baffled by them.

Hmm, my signature is problematic? Perhaps I will use a Hannibal Lecter quote instead. :D


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10 Mar 2010, 2:11 pm

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Yes, I've done it to an extent--I don't try to be a specific person, but I steal bits of conversation, styles of talking, etc from all sorts of people.


Me too. It was never a concious thing until I recognised it, I just used to use styles of talking/mannerisms/etc that I'd picked up from those around me.



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10 Mar 2010, 3:47 pm

LK wrote:
JHenry2848 wrote:
The quote in your sig kinda makes aspies sound like intentional hermets who want to be left alone and enjoy it. Im not a diagnosed aspie, but I am very lonely and extremely socially awkward. Always questioning things like making good eye contact and how my facial expresions should look like when talking to someone. Even though i dont "get" socialising, I would still like to have relationships.


The quote in my signature? I didn't quote that because I believe it speaks for people with asperger's. I quoted it because I find it amusing, and because I am often repulsed by social relationships. I'm always baffled by them.

Hmm, my signature is problematic? Perhaps I will use a Hannibal Lecter quote instead. :D
It doesnt cause a problem attall. I just thought it was relevant to bring up.



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10 Mar 2010, 4:31 pm

I have learned to take on whatever personality someone else asks of me if really needed, but don't like to do this most of the time. It's a lie. If we lie often enough by taking on these persona's, they become inseparable from who we are. I got to this point after a few years of being a chameleon. It's not cool. You feel like a tool of society.

So I stopped. I restructured my moral standards, and put upholding the truth as one of my highest virtues. It's a very large step to take. You have to find yourself all over again. You question everything all over again. I found more freedom from that one change than from anything else I've ever done. The downside is that you become painstakingly aware of how brainwashed everyone is. You realize that nobody is really having their own thoughts. They're borrowing personality traits from the tube, or utube, or hollywood, etc..I was borrowing personality traits from someone who already borrowed them! A copy of a copy...ew!!


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10 Mar 2010, 7:01 pm

everything about the social world that I dont understand is really just a game. The way you word things has more emphasis than the words that are actually said. In my mind I find it ridiculous however even I am drawn to certain types of personality. Perhaps the way I socialise is based on 80% words and 20 percent personality. However there are so many rules to this game of life and I will never have the propper hand. The facial expression which I make are innapropriate the eye contact the randomness, the obsessiveness I show is all wrong. People generally look at me for extra time after I have said something to read a meaning from my dead eyes. Its because of this that im seen as an enemy and whatever career field I choose to enter has to be one that doesnt ever rely on socialising.



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10 Mar 2010, 7:36 pm

Aimless wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Aimless wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:

You don't have to dislike social contact to have AS. It is a disorder of poor social skills, not necessarily lack of desire for social contact.


You may no longer desire social contact because you still don't understand how and after years of trying and failing you may discover that the social contact you do have is exhausting. That's why I no longer try. I'm happier too.


Yes, hence my wording "not necessarily lack of desire for social contact".

Sorry, it's morning here. :)


No worries. :) I understand what mornings are like.


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11 Mar 2010, 12:31 am

Yeah. I do this usually with certain characters from movies or tv shows. Very rarely do I take on other people's personalities but it has happened a few times. But because of this I never like to watch horror films, for that reason and because I can't sleep at night after watching it. Like when I watched the Shining I acted like Jack for a few weeks, my friends were kind of scared of me for a while. :P
But I normally will adopt other's certain actions or behaviors or manneurisms, ie their way of talking or walking or even things as small as blinking or facial expressions.


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11 Mar 2010, 12:41 am

I often do this. Many times with people, I feel like I am acting. If I know I am going to go into a certain situation, i often rehearse it in my head, almost coaching myself on social skills I know I lack, such as (pretend to) be interested in the other person, run through the small talk script, etc.



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11 Mar 2010, 12:49 am

Actually, I do recall adopting a fake personality. I took on the personality of Sid from Flushed Away, in 2007. A guttersnipe was all that I hoped to be, was because of a soiling problem. Sid is the little punk rat that I used to have for an avatar. I know it's not the case, now. I've found out that my idol developed such a condition, in his 20s, by reading a book, just recently.


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12 Mar 2010, 4:18 am

tttnjfttt wrote:
I often do this. Many times with people, I feel like I am acting. If I know I am going to go into a certain situation, i often rehearse it in my head, almost coaching myself on social skills I know I lack, such as (pretend to) be interested in the other person, run through the small talk script, etc.
I can relate with you 100%



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12 Mar 2010, 12:54 pm

Yup. I even made a thread about it a while ago. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt109790.html

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