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07 Apr 2010, 10:30 am

I meant " care" as in a close friend/significant other, not just any friend. And there must be an emotional bond.



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07 Apr 2010, 10:36 am

auntblabby wrote:
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I find touching so insincere. It is like deluding someone that you care for them when they don't really.


:?: :?
why would somebody touch somebody in an affectionate way, if they DIDN'T care for them to some extent? this "enquiring mind wants to know."


I've seen people show a lot of false affection for others like that. Me, I can't touch anybody if I don't "mean it"....similarly, I can't hold a smile if I'm not happy, or say "great to see you!" if I don't actually feel that way. I guess it's a neurotypical thing, or to put it another way, I'm pathologically honest. I'm quite capable of hiding my negative feelings towards others, which admittedly distorts the messages I give out, but I can't exagerrate the positive stuff at all easily, and when I do, I feel heartily ashamed of myself.

There's one lady I know vaguely who is very touchy-feely and always hugs me whenever we meet. I wouldn't want her to stop that, but I can't help but notice a dimension of insincerity or emptiness about it, as we hardly know anything about each other. It would mean a lot more to me if we'd shared some experiences together, but frankly we hardly know each other. It's probably just her way of saying hello.



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07 Apr 2010, 2:45 pm

I'm just very sensitive. I can feel any little thing, and human skin, for some reason, it like, makes me shiver. And I'm extremely ticklish, which also makes it uncomfortable to touch someone.


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07 Apr 2010, 3:00 pm

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touch is very important for the proper development of humans and other animals. it has been proven that babies who are not gently handled "fail to thrive" and literally wither away. i wonder what becomes of the few survivors of such tactile poverty?


Well I didn't get a lot because of circumstances. At the time of my birth my parents already had 3 very high maintenance children and they say I didn't cry for attention, only if I was hungry or wet. It was easier for them to just plop me somewhere.



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07 Apr 2010, 3:01 pm

I don't liked to be touched because it makes me feel uncomfortable and my body starts to get stiff but a cuddle or hug is fine though.



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07 Apr 2010, 7:48 pm

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There's one lady I know vaguely who is very touchy-feely and always hugs me whenever we meet. I wouldn't want her to stop that, but I can't help but notice a dimension of insincerity or emptiness about it, as we hardly know anything about each other. It would mean a lot more to me if we'd shared some experiences together, but frankly we hardly know each other. It's probably just her way of saying hello.


maybe your lady friend lacks the proper vocabulary to verbally express what she feels about you when she hugs you, so the hug is shorthand for what is in her head that she can't clearly express any other way. maybe this inability to muster the correct words can seem like insincerity to other more verbally gifted folk. just a thought.



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07 Apr 2010, 7:55 pm

auntblabby wrote:
. i wonder what becomes of the few survivors of such tactile poverty?


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Well I didn't get a lot because of circumstances. At the time of my birth my parents already had 3 very high maintenance children and they say I didn't cry for attention, only if I was hungry or wet. It was easier for them to just plop me somewhere.


illuminating. i was in the same situation, yet i have always craved affection and would reciprocate affection given half a chance, even if i was/am very clumsy about it.



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07 Apr 2010, 8:12 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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. i wonder what becomes of the few survivors of such tactile poverty?


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Well I didn't get a lot because of circumstances. At the time of my birth my parents already had 3 very high maintenance children and they say I didn't cry for attention, only if I was hungry or wet. It was easier for them to just plop me somewhere.


illuminating. i was in the same situation, yet i have always craved affection and would reciprocate affection given half a chance, even if i was/am very clumsy about it.


Once someone is in my area of emotional intimacy, I am very comfortable with touch. It's really more a matter of permission for me than tactile discomfort. This is effed up but my father did not touch my sister and I once we were past toddler age (except to spank us). My mother said he felt "uncomfortable" with it. That might be partly a generational thing. Parenting trends come and go. It seems in my generation it was very important to make sure your child didn't feel special. It would rot your character apparently. :roll:



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07 Apr 2010, 8:23 pm

For me it's certain kinds of touching that I don't like.
I like hugs, because it's saying that the person likes you enough to want to be close to you. Also most of the time people won't hug you unless you're comfortable enough to let them do so.
However, someone putting their hand on my shoulder freaks me out! It's like they have no respect for my personal space and it ticks me off to no end! Some guy at work was walking by me, saying that he has to go do something else, and just gives a huge pat on my shoulder and leaves it there while explaining where he's going. I hated it! The only thing running through my head at the time was "GET YOUR HAND OFF ME AND JUST GO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO ALREADY!" But I held in my emotions because I was in public & didn't want to make a scene.
Someone taking me by the arm to guide me somewhere I find degrading and embarrassing. It's like they don't think I'm smart enough to know that they want me to follow them. I feel like a little toddler holding hands just to cross the street. It's humiliating! I'm old enough to walk by myself!
Getting pat on the head I find degrading as well. It's like the person is treating me like a dog or cat or some other kind of animal rather than a human being.
However, being petted, rubbed, or massaged on any other body part I find comforting at first (especially with someone I know, like, & trust). But if it's being done too long & too much, it starts to become irritable and I have to tell them to stop.
Someone tapping me to get my attention startles me so much! But then again when I'm busy doing something, just about any method to draw my attention away from my work makes me jump out of my skin.



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07 Apr 2010, 9:46 pm

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It seems in my generation it was very important to make sure your child didn't feel special. It would rot your character apparently. :roll:


i don't know about anything generational about my situation, but i do know that my mother was overwhelmed by dealing with 4 challenging kids and a husband who was gone often and when he wasn't gone he was often drunk and mean.



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07 Apr 2010, 9:48 pm

_Square_Peg_, cute avatar!

I don't like being touched. It just makes me feel uncomfortable, and I pull away. There's also the whole germ thing, but that's not really the issue. I don't like hugs and things like that. I don't do high fives. I HATE it when people touch my hair (but that's just a black thing). And I always get distracted when my teachers are in a close proximity. I don't like being touched by them. And I don't like being that close to them.
Just teachers, though, and sometimes other kids. Most people don't get that close to you.

I can tolerate being touched, though. Just dislike it.



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07 Apr 2010, 9:49 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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It seems in my generation it was very important to make sure your child didn't feel special. It would rot your character apparently. :roll:


i don't know about anything generational about my situation, but i do know that my mother was overwhelmed by dealing with 4 challenging kids and a husband who was gone often and when he wasn't gone he was often drunk and mean.


Yeah, my mother had 5 kids and 4 of those within a 5 year period. So she was always pregnant or nursing and exhausted. She got pregnant with me when my sister was only 3 months old.



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07 Apr 2010, 9:50 pm

_Square_Peg_ wrote:
For me it's certain kinds of touching that I don't like.


good touch and bad touch.



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07 Apr 2010, 9:51 pm

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_Square_Peg_, cute avatar!


Thanks, you too! ^^



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07 Apr 2010, 9:52 pm

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She got pregnant with me when my sister was only 3 months old.


gosh, that is tough. it sounds like your mother had a full plate of struggles. our mothers could have commiserated.



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07 Apr 2010, 9:54 pm

_Square_Peg_ wrote:
told_u_so wrote:
_Square_Peg_, cute avatar!


Thanks, you too! ^^


I must agree. What anime is it from?

Being touched for too long can make me feel ill.

Otherwise if it is someone I like it is a nice rush.