For those who DO want a cure...

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Not wanting a cure is not the same as desiring stagnation.

Not wanting a cure is also not the same as being against things that help. It is also not about being against learning. Totally false dichotomies.

I.e. Some people are against cochlear implants, but that doesn't mean they're also against their kid learning ASL.

A cure sounds like identity theft.

Oh sure, I'll take the cure then ride my unicorn and go fight fire breathing dragons.

All three things don't exist unfortunately.

The unfortunately is for the dragons. Dragons are cool. I would never actually fight them.

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Like Treebeard of LOTR fame said to Pippin (in the Two Towers movie anyway) after the latter asked him whose "side" he was on......"Side?... I am on nobody's side...because nobody is on MY side".[/quote]

No gifts? You seem to be a hell of a writer. That said, your point is taken.

ProfessorAspie wrote:

I would not want a cure. I've learned a lot from my AS. Especially how to hide things and be sneaky.

MommyJones wrote:

Good news folks: I can announce with firm conviction and total sincerity that there is indeed a cure for autism.

It is called: having lots of money.

You see folks, having lots of money takes you very far in this world, irrespective of any niggling personality quirks or idiosyncracies.

I would like to feel comfortable around people just once even if it was just for a month or two. I have had women walk up to talk to me and always turn around and walk away. I have had their friends come up to me to give lectures of "your not all that or who do you think you are?" type conversations. Just once I would like to smile and ask her out. Normal is better what I am now is living hell.

I think the problem we all have, the reason any of us would ever want a cure, is to eliminate the constant belittlement and sense of worthlessness we're made to feel day after day, because we're living according to one set of rules and the NTs of the world according to another. I, myself, have an assortment of personality quirks and unique qualities but I certainly don't want to change. I love who I am, oddities and all, and don't feel I should have to change. However, in my 25 years, I've gotten so very tired and worn out from the constant impulse to defend myself and justify every step I take, every action I make. I remember when I was younger, I wasn't always as cynical about other people....I was actually a friendly, outgoing person and I had my share of quirky behaviors but I was at least shown tolerance and respect. I generally liked most people and found myself drawn to others and getting to know them.

As the years went on, though, that slowly changed. As my peers grew and they matured into what most would consider "normal", I was left behind, and they never let me forget it. I suffer from Tourettes Syndrome and, though I can hide the AS symptoms behind a mask of shyness and quietude, the tics were a different story. Middle school was the worst, and I felt resentment and discrimination for the first time, and it was a pretty ugly sight. I withdrew into myself and started pushing people away, and I've been doing it ever since. It's like there's two rulebooks out there, one for the NT world and one for the AS world. Many support groups out there claim to have the best interests of Autists at heart but they're still trying to label us according to their own standards. They would feel the appropriate solution is to change us and to make us just like them, so a "cure" is the ultimate goal. They won't be satisfied until they can translate our rules for living into theirs. This is why I feel we're constantly being judged according to their standards, and what they want us to be.

I feel that's why NTs are constantly criticizing our actions and behaviors, whether in an abusive way or just to be obnoxious. It's not because what we're doing is wrong, but because they don't understand us, and people are intimidated by what they don't understand. Much like other forms of discrimination in the past, it's easier to erase the problem than to deal with it. The civil rights movement is an ongoing process, one that has only in the past few hundred years addressed gender and sexuality, but individual personality is still being swept under the rug. They mischaracterize autism as a disease, something to be eliminated, whereas they should be treating it as a difference. We are unique, yes, but that doesn't mean anything we do is bad....society encourages tolerance for a person's religion or personal beliefs, but it refuses to extend the same courtesy for a person's personality and behavior, and that's caused all of us a lot of grief.

If given the option for a cure, I wouldn't take it, because I shouldn't have to change myself to fit the profile for how a person should act or behave....all I want is the same rights and opportunities as everyone else.....not just on paper, but in practice.

God, to all these people who don't want a cure can you please shut up and stop plaguing this thread, there's a thread for those who don't want a cure. The people on this forum that actually want to be cured/improved get drowned out constantly by these autism patriots who just can't keep their blind pride to themselves (and out of threads that don't want to hear about it).

People come here for help and desperately want to get better. They ask a question seeking advice to improve their symptoms, and their threads get hijacked by all these ignorant people saying "autism can't be cured or helped, but why would you want to cure it's a gift."

We finally get a thread where everyone who does want a cure can relate with one another and it's instantly destroyed by morons who can't keep their mouth shut regarding their autistic pride,. They post in this thread but don't contribute to the topic of the thread, can't relate to people who want a cure etc then hijack it. It's extremely selfish and disgusting.

Telling us that autism is great and you wouldn't change who you are isn't going to help the people who this thread is for one single bit.

I don't understand why you'd post that you're you're proud to be autistic in the first place unless it was relevant. Otherwise it's not even slightly productive.
In this thread it's just as productive as me telling you that my bedroom walls are blue. Who does that help?? So why do you people spam being proud in almost every thread you can? Because you can't understand not wanting to be autistic? To boost self esteem? You're obviously not trying to help the threadstarter. And if you argue that you are then explain how please.

The people who don't like autism, don't like it for a reason, you saying you're proud of it doesn't help them in anyway, it just insults their intelligence.
You're proud to be autistic, GOOD FOR YOU!! !!

Now for the 0.05% of people on this entire forum who actually do want a cure, there isn't one but there are a lot of treatments that can make most of it disappear forever, but not all of it. I'll list them from best to worst.

1. Gluten/Casein free diet: The most beneficial, you really need to go on both. The improvements are hard to put into words, you really need to do the diet for yourself to understand. I did it myself for only 3 months and the improvements were:
Eye contact, emotions, brain fog, depth perception, body language, sleep, motivation, attention and mainly senses like touch and sight.

The biggest difference was the boost in energy, followed by the change in senses, this made me feel reborn, my body (touch) felt like it had been switched off (I felt like a head on a block rather than feeling all my torso, limbs. My depth perception improved drastically, I was happier, didn't need as much sleep/felt better rested, didn't zone out at all. The reborn feeling was amazing and it changed everything, I had better co ordination, my walk changed (my feet sort've slapped the ground before the diet), eye contact still wasn't great but I didn't stare anymore, monotonal voice disappeared completely, brain felt like it wasn't lagging/was clearer. Depth perception was massive, I'd have a glass of milk one day hop into the car and I'd feel like I was on an acid trip (yes i've done acid and it's an extremely close feeling mentally and I couldn't tell how many cars were in each lane at an intersection coming to a stop. So many changes I'm forgetting to add a lot of them.

Then I went off the diet a month back (because i was sick of the food and found medicine that allowed to me to get the same result as the diet but allowing me to still eat gluten/dairy i'll go into that later) and all my friends got disappointed, they said they had noticed remarkable results. Annoyingly enough they didn't actually tell me or give me any compliments when I was on the diet, only after. They said I seemed, happier, didn't sit down/lean on things all the time, wasn't dopey anymore and didn't look lifeless/stoned. However the biggest things they noticed were that I didn't zone out anymore or have a monotonal voice.

Now it's scientifically proven to be linked to Autism, despite many people demanding that it's still a theory. This is due to a large "credible" study that found no link between autism and gluten. The study was ignorant and used urine testing for peptides which is completely unreliable for multiple reasons. Not the testing equipment itself, the fact that if you take glutomorphin urine tests from a large amount of people you're unlikely to find a sample in the urine even if the DPP-IV enzyme is missing due to the nature of the peptide. This credible study wrongfully assumed that the peptides would be consistently streamed in the urine.

Next thing I treated myself for (treatment hasn't finished yet) was Mercury poisoning which made me feel loads better however can't really explain how I improved, I just changed sort've, the only thing I could put on paper is less stereotypical thinking a lot more than that improved. I'll finish this post later I g2g for now.

After I take said cure for my Dysleixa would I still be myself? Same thing for the the part that is somewhat ADD. And when I at long last find out if I do have Aspergers the question can be asked of that.

If it changes who I am then no I don't want a cure. It makes me who I am and what other people say they love about me. I may never have enjoyed half the stuff I like if it for what I have so no I would not want a cure if it changes who I am.

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