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13 Apr 2010, 6:58 pm

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I just don't like the know-it-all way of getting their points across. I'm not going to mention any names, but there are certain posters that think they are gurus and can "cure" Aspies, and that it's us that have to conform to NTs because NTs are so great.


I value their input. They offer a translation of some social rules we might not know intuitively. They can't assume we can take that information and put it into practice so easily, but just today one of our NT's made a comment about expectations in relationships that I recognized was part of my problem. That doesn't mean I can shrug off years of misunderstanding and baggage right away, but it enlarges my perspective. I think for the most part the NT's here have been a valuable asset. They are also here usually because they care about someone with an ASD and want to make a connection.More often than not the advice given by an NT is in response to a question. I think what may come across as "know-it-all" is simply self confidence.



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13 Apr 2010, 7:07 pm

It confuses me at times. It's not like people should have to wear nametags that read "AS" or "NT" but *here* - this does seem like a more sacred place. I talk about stuff here that I don't anywhere else - I assume I will be understood and nearly always I am, which is amazing and wonderful and something you don't find out in the real world usually.

I don't quite understand the population of NTs here. I mean, I don't hang out on the snowboarder's discussion boards because I don't snowboard. I don't hang out on the cancer patient's discussion boards because I don't have cancer. I can't really relate to them and it would be ridiculous of me to spend time there and try and tell them what they should be doing or what they should eat or how they should feel.... that space is for others going through the same thing who share that one thing. If you're not one who shares it, why spend time there?

At times I get a response or 'advice' from a poster that seems really off - really that they don't get what I'm saying in the least or they trivialize it - and I wish I knew if that was an AS or NT person. After some reading I've learned a couple of those 'off' responses were from self proclaimed NTs, but I didn't know that at first. I think I would have liked to know right away that this reply is from an NT person and that's why it doesn't make any sense here. :) lol You know what I mean - I don't mean to sound insulting but Hey, NTs make us feel bad often in the real world, do they have to come on here to this sacred place and do it here too?

I think their input can be valuable but that they should identify this opinion is from an NT person right up front so anyone reading knows.


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13 Apr 2010, 7:15 pm

There's only a handful of NT's that are regulars here and usually they are here because they have AS children. They have a valid reason to be here.



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13 Apr 2010, 7:18 pm

i know exactly what you mean. ask for advise and all the NTs respond with is criticism, as if they don't want to be blamed for rude ignorance



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13 Apr 2010, 7:21 pm

Nope... I can understand some of it pretty well.


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13 Apr 2010, 7:28 pm

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Anyone else feel weird that NTs are on here giving advice on a subject they have no clue about?




Considering that alot people with ASDs and many mental health professionals have no clue either, no not really.



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13 Apr 2010, 8:10 pm

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Anyone else feel weird that NTs are on here giving advice on a subject they have no clue about?

Well that's a big assumption, isn't it? You know for a fact that every NT has no clue? What about parents of autistic children? They would have a lot of experience with it and come on here to better understand their child. Autism affects pretty much everyone. A friend of an autistic person might come on here to find out more about their friend. A sibling would do the same. And over time that learn a lot and can give advice.
Sometimes when I join a forum I don't know much then I learn and a few months later I can give advice to someone that was once in my shoes. Like in places like Yahoo Answers. I know so much about living healthy and losing weight I could just join Jenny Craig as a mentor.
I was also once pretty ignorant about Asperger's syndrome and autism but I've been here for two years, so yeah, I know a bit about it now.
I'm sure NT's are the same way.

I don't think it's weird at all. Like someone said they do have a right to be here. They're not all bullies or people that stereotype autism. They're actually wanting to learn more and help other people, whether autistic or NT.
That NT/AS hotline thread has been really helpful.


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13 Apr 2010, 8:10 pm

Well one member who on here who is an NT was in correspondence with an aspie on this site, and claimed her and him were "online dating" but if you ask him, it wasn't the case and she had an unrequited crush on him. Now she stays on the site to spite him.



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13 Apr 2010, 8:15 pm

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At times I get a response or 'advice' from a poster that seems really off - really that they don't get what I'm saying in the least or they trivialize it - and I wish I knew if that was an AS or NT person. After some reading I've learned a couple of those 'off' responses were from self proclaimed NTs, but I didn't know that at first. I think I would have liked to know right away that this reply is from an NT person and that's why it doesn't make any sense here. :) lol You know what I mean - I don't mean to sound insulting but Hey, NTs make us feel bad often in the real world, do they have to come on here to this sacred place and do it here too?

I think their input can be valuable but that they should identify this opinion is from an NT person right up front so anyone reading knows.


When I'm not sure I click on profile at the bottom of the post and see if they self-identify as AS or NT. Sometimes it's no help, but other times it answers the question.


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13 Apr 2010, 8:45 pm

Ebonwinter wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Ebonwinter wrote:
Valoyossa wrote:
So do you suggest we should hide from Muggles? ;)


Yes! We will hide in a dense forest and design our own language and culture and be discovered hundreds of years later!


or you can hope that 2012 is really gonna be what happens in shadowrun XD


Gotta love the thought of most of the human population mutating into elves, trolls, dwarves, and such.


I think I am more of a hobbit.


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13 Apr 2010, 8:49 pm

zen_mistress wrote:
Ebonwinter wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Ebonwinter wrote:
Valoyossa wrote:
So do you suggest we should hide from Muggles? ;)


Yes! We will hide in a dense forest and design our own language and culture and be discovered hundreds of years later!


or you can hope that 2012 is really gonna be what happens in shadowrun XD


Gotta love the thought of most of the human population mutating into elves, trolls, dwarves, and such.


I think I am more of a hobbit.


I have no ideal what I am.



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13 Apr 2010, 9:00 pm

I always just assumed they were just parents, siblings or family members of someone with autism or worked with autistic people or planned too.



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13 Apr 2010, 9:47 pm

No. I like them being here,]; I find their input very valuable, and it is very valuable.

I also like that they are here trying to learn more about autism and/or give input on their perceptions of autism.


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13 Apr 2010, 11:14 pm

Ebonwinter wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
Ebonwinter wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Ebonwinter wrote:
Valoyossa wrote:
So do you suggest we should hide from Muggles? ;)


Yes! We will hide in a dense forest and design our own language and culture and be discovered hundreds of years later!


or you can hope that 2012 is really gonna be what happens in shadowrun XD


Gotta love the thought of most of the human population mutating into elves, trolls, dwarves, and such.


I think I am more of a hobbit.


I have no ideal what I am.


I know I am THE missing link.

Huge Hulking Hairy Thing that I am :/


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13 Apr 2010, 11:16 pm

Tollorin wrote:
Ebonwinter wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Ebonwinter wrote:
Valoyossa wrote:
So do you suggest we should hide from Muggles? ;)


Yes! We will hide in a dense forest and design our own language and culture and be discovered hundreds of years later!


or you can hope that 2012 is really gonna be what happens in shadowrun XD


Gotta love the thought of most of the human population mutating into elves, trolls, dwarves, and such.


Great! I want to be a elve. :wink:

I would go for orc


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13 Apr 2010, 11:33 pm

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The presence of non-autistic people here allows both "groups," autistic and non-autistic, a chance to learn about the other (and both have a lot to learn yet, I think).

This. Different perspective goes both ways :wink: