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06 Dec 2010, 1:21 am

It is hard being the punchline in other ppl jokes. I pretty much stay home and take care of my mother who is chronicly ill. When I am out, I dont really try to get to know people. But when you are a captive audience fpr others, its kinda hard to escape. I will tell you that trying to make them stop will only make it worse. I agree that if they are in your space, tell them to go somewhere else cuz your busy. People like that are just immature and shallow, you wouldn't want them as friends anyway.


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21 Feb 2011, 5:40 pm

I can sense who laughs at me and who don't. It's a Theory of Mind thing, I think. (I don't know if I'm using the right words here, but I think Theory of Mind comes into this a bit).

For example, I know my manager at my volunteer job laughs at me sometimes. I just know she does, more than anyone else there. She's one of those people who plays favourites with people, and judges the people who aren't one of her favourites. I've learnt that I'm not her favourite. I know one of the main Aspie symptoms is being unable to understand what other people are thinking and feeling, but I can, and this is where's it's not good when you're an Aspie. You make so many ''social mistakes'', then you know what consequences are to come afterwards, which is when your oversensitive thoughts kick in and make you feel even more socially afraid, especially knowing exactly when people are judging you and why.
Last week at my volunteer job, I wanted to get some toys out onto the shop floor on the shelves, but there was too many customers out there at the moment - standing right where I wanted to go. So I hung back in the stock room and just said that I am just waiting for some of the customers to go. The manager just said, ''OK.'' And as soon as the people went, I went to put the toys out on the shelves. When I came back into the stock room, I found the manager was talking to someone else, and I could tell she was laughing about me because of the way she looked up and asked me, ''oh, Josie.....you don't like customers....do you?'' And the person she was with was looking up at me too, trying not to laugh.
My manager is one of those people who makes you feel stupid. I don't mind when people just laugh it off with me and try to understand how I feel, but when they are laughing in the ''I think you're strange'' way, it makes me feel so low and ashamed of myself.
I can easily spot the differences between someone joking around without meaning it, someone joking around and meaning it, someone being silly and sniggering, someone complaining about you, someone back-stabbing you, and someone just being curious. I can just tell, and I'm always right about it. I know who jokes around with me and who really does laugh at me and who likes me more and who doesn't. It's not my imagination. I just know. It doesn’t always necessarily take a social genius to figure out what other people are thinking of you, especially when you get to know what sort of people they are, and what sort of people they get on with and so on.
What I want these popular types of NTs to know is I’m not as stupid as I look.


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21 Feb 2011, 6:09 pm

When I worked at a resteraunt my co-workers would not be laughing if they knew what I was putting in their food or drinks.


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21 Feb 2011, 6:33 pm

As a matter of fact I am sure that people are laughing behind my back but I don't care anymore. I used to when I was younger, now I don't and that's one of the best things about getting older. One cares less for other people's opinions.
Sometimes I think that they don't dare to do it in front of me because they are scared that I might bite their heads off. Figuratively speaking, of course.



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21 Feb 2011, 6:45 pm

Severus wrote:
As a matter of fact I am sure that people are laughing behind my back but I don't care anymore. I used to when I was younger, now I don't and that's one of the best things about getting older. One cares less for other people's opinions.
Sometimes I think that they don't dare to do it in front of me because they are scared that I might bite their heads off. Figuratively speaking, of course.


That would be quite a surprise for them if you indeed literally bit their heads off, leaving blood spurting from gnawed upon stumps of necks!

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21 Feb 2011, 7:13 pm

Indeed :lol:
I wish I were better equipped in the fangs department.



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21 Feb 2011, 8:05 pm

He posed the situation where he wants money and has some free time and I suggest he gets another job.

If I may dissect your above comments, no he did not pose a situation, he is NT they have to talk about any little thing, it's an emotional deficit they suffer from. Being NT means when after work they congregate with other NT's, (socialising) another emotional deficit. When you commented you have free time get another job you appeared to be copying the role of a father (like telling a child to do their homework). NT's think fathers are funny, so they laugh, not at you, but at your comments. Socialising is important to them so it's not free time. Next time ask them what they will do to get the money, this is then conversation. It's boring but in work you have to do it. it all works like this. open questions, like how will you do that, will prompt a answer. Closed questions only allow yes or no as an answers. Your response gave no room for an answer, so NT's laugh, which means no. I hope this helps. :D



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21 Feb 2011, 8:57 pm

Well people tease me right in the open, most incidents are friendly and not mean. Occasionally I think they mock me when I'm not around.




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21 Feb 2011, 9:29 pm

I don't really care so I don't waste my time worrying about if they do or not. But often when I speak and people laugh, I sometimes wonder if they are laughing at me but I don't dwell on it.

My husband likes to poke fun at me at times but in a nice way and I do the same for him but I hate it when he says I am making fun of him or being mean. :( Then he goes "I know you don't mean it."



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21 Feb 2011, 11:24 pm

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I just smile. Most people are kind of stuck in High school socially.


I do the same thing as well. I also agree with you about the social maturity of most people.


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21 Feb 2011, 11:37 pm

When I was young, people used to laugh at me because I took things so literally and seriously.

At the end of my 11th grade year of high school, the chemistry teacher had a tradition of giving the Mortimer Molecule Award to the one chemistry student she had in class that was real clumsy and messed things up. She had done this award for years. Well...at the school awards assembly that year---I got the Mortimer Molecule Award. The students laughed. I accepted the award and figured I had gotten it because I often questioned my test results in experiments. I thought I was therefore the clumsy chemistry student. I later learned I had gotten the award as a joke because I was the student who kept the neatest and cleanest work station---I didn't make messes. I was one of the class nerdy brains. So the award was given to me as a joke because I was the opposite of Mortimer Molecule. But I didn't realize that at the time.

So...I think people sometimes laughed at me because I often failed to take things the way they were intended.


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22 Feb 2011, 3:09 am

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My office backs onto a common area where there is a coffee machine and some couches to relax on during the day. One of the computer programmers who works near me was commenting that he was sick of hving no free cash to spend on a car (being a postgrad there isn't TOO much money going around!) and I suggested that since he's got so much spare time in the evenings he should get another job. It's not like he stays at the office past 5:30 any day and he's not in until 8:30 so he COULD get another job. . . . .
Is that seen as a joke to most people? He posed the situation where he wants money and has some free time and I suggest he gets another job.


I don't see anything funny about that at all. I know a lot of people including grad students, post docs, and full professors who do a little work on the side to make extra money.

Ultimately, you just have to stop worrying about what people are saying about you behind your back. If they are going to talk, they will talk, and you probably won't be able to guess what they talk about. I know that this is hard advice to follow.


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22 Feb 2011, 5:03 am

I don't have problems with people laughing at me. Most of the time I don't notice. It's not like I don't ever laugh at other people. It's not a main source of my entertainment, but I never tried too hard to not laugh at somebody who I thought funny. Once I saw a family with 7 kids and they all looked exactly the same, just all different ages. I was thinking "why do you need that many copies of the same person" and thought it was so funny. :D I wasn't brought up to be nice and kind, so it's easy to laugh at people and be laughed at and consider it all good fun.



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22 Feb 2011, 8:09 am

If I think someone is laughing at me, I usually ask them what's so funny since I missed the joke. They never seem to laugh at me again after this.



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25 Feb 2011, 12:39 pm

This morning I was waiting in the bus stop when 2 teenage girls walked by, and out of the corner of my eye I saw them staring right at me and laughing. But I couldn't have been anything to laugh about, because I wasn't even looking directly at them, and I was talking to a man in the bus stop, who was asking me what time the bus was due and how many times an hour it runs and so on. I thought NTs (especially teenage girls) liked to see people talking to others, because that means I'm doing something under the social category, and that's how most teenagers judge people is by seeing if they're looking social or not.
I wasn't even looking ''weird'', because I had trendy clothes on; skinny jeans, boots, a long coat, and a handbag over my shoulder, so I looked just as ordinary and good as the next person. I wasn't even looking nervous or even standing awkwardly. I like waiting at bus stops and getting the buses, so normally I look relaxed and cheerful when I'm waiting in the bus stop, like I did this morning. I wasn't doing any Aspie things, like flapping hands (I don't do that anyway). It can't have been the expression on my face because I was smiling as I was talking to this man, and I was telling him what times the buses come.

But there must have been something these horrible idiots were laughing at, and that made my self confidence sink even lower. When I got to work I found myself asking my friends there if I looked all right, and they said I looked fine. I even asked a friend who is really into fashion and knows everything about the latest fashion, and she said everything on me were what she would wear herself.
It is normal for females to get self-conscious, especially when they experience others laughing at them for nothing, so I don't know why females do it to eachother. I would understand them laughing at me if I look like a rag doll been dragged through a hedge backwards, but I don't. I've even got a nice hairstyle.

Even if I do give off stupid vibes what make people sense how weird I am, surely it can't make people laugh, if I'm standing there acting normal and cool and dressed presentable and looking descent. The only people I sometimes stare at and maybe laugh are people who are humiliating themselves. Not people who are just standing there minding their own business. Even if they did look a bit odd, they're no laughing matter if they're just standing there not doing anything to make themselves look funny or different.

I don't consider myself that weird anyway, not even my personality. I know more people who go out looking and acting weirder than me. Last year in Chelmsford I saw a man hitting himself and stomping about angrily in a busy shop, all because his baby started crying. His wife (I think it was his wife) was trying to calm him down, and everybody was staring at him, and some looked afraid of him, and others were laughing at him. Now that's an understandable reason for people to look at somebody and laugh. But not someone like me who goes out looking and acting just the same way as everybody else.


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17 Oct 2015, 10:22 pm

Joe90 wrote:
Now that's an understandable reason for people to look at somebody and laugh. But not someone like me who goes out looking and acting just the same way as everybody else.


There is no rationalizing why the obsessively social NT compulsively complies with herd mentality. It's an evolutionary left-over like a vestigial organ. There is no good excuse for laughing at a person in pain. In a just world these insensitive people would be bred out of existence over a few generations for their refusal to use the brain in a more constructive way.