I have noticed an interesting phenomenon.

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Kiley
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24 May 2010, 10:24 pm

Mosaicofminds wrote:
"Aspies like to talk about things, and sometimes they like to listen to other people who know a lot. It's not at all surprising to me that people with our sort of conversational style would be able to identify each other and enjoy each others' company."

FYI, in addition to aspies, a certain sort of intelligent person and some people with ADD are like this, too. Although I'm not diagnosed with ASD, this is one of the traits I relate to the most, and I seek out this sort of conversational style in others. Actually, this might be one of the main factors that determines whether or not I "click" with someone and whether they move from acquaintance to friend.

I notice AS traits immediately in people, but because I've met so many NTs and ADD-ers with AS traits, I tend not to assume the person actually has AS until I notice that the person has every trait in the DSM. However, I think I'm pretty accurate at pegging, quickly, the fact that a person is non-neurotypical in general. This was actually a problem once when I worked at a summer camp and encountered an indisputably non-NT child, but was not allowed to do so much as talk to the (bewildered) teachers about what I'd observed. I still regret that I didn't talk to them anyway.


I think that most people probably function well in more than one circle. Some NTs may unconsciously or even consciously shut out Aspies because they don't quite know what to make of them and some Aspies may do the same thing. There may be Aspiedar just like there is gaydar. I think there is also geekdar. Some Aspies may connect with some NTs and visa versa on the geek level. Not all Aspies are Geeks and not all Geeks are Aspies. There are probably other -dars.



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25 May 2010, 12:38 am

People find one another. Not limited to the Aspie - various NT types do the same thing. I have a very limited range of types that are compatible [in concentric if eccentric circles], and we tend to gravitate. I have people in my history I never got to know - but I knew how I could know them.

And the utter nothings contrariwise.

This is why the NT is not fooled when one tries to pass.



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25 May 2010, 1:54 am

aha.

this is the conversation i have been looking for.

first, i am wondering if i'm totally mad for thinking the rare (like 1 in 1000) person that i can "read" or feel is simply likely to be an aspie. and no answer, obviously, without prying (into information the person might not know himself, in fact) but ... it's interesting to ponder either way. it is just the only piece of the puzzle i can't solve, since i can't go back in time and find them all.

i saw a guy in the supermarket earlier that i immediately got a suspicion about. and he was looking around nervously, so could've been any sort of weirdo really. but then the cashier said some drivel like "hi. how are you today?" and the answer was a very monotone forced "fine." then after being asked "did you find everything alright?" he said .. "eh." (long pause ... ) "well, i had to ask because i couldn't find something, actually, but then i eventually figured it out .. " or something to that effect. long-winded and literal answer to what is probably meant to be more or less a rhetorical question. i couldn't help giggling a little bit.

and also i had been wondering whether to disclose to someone i know that i think he is an aspie. i was afraid of, as poppyx said, upsetting the apple cart.

lots to ponder ...


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25 May 2010, 4:57 am

Willard wrote:
If only one in one hundred and fifty has AS, running into others should be a fairly unusual occurrence unless you work in a Mental Health Facility. In fifty years I've only run across two or three that I strongly suspect of ASDs, but I have yet to meet anyone whom I know for a fact was a diagnosed Aspergian.

Me neither, though I'm such a pedantic stickler for proof that strong suspicion is probably as near as I'm going to get. What I'm wondering, though, is whether my coping strategies have shut out a lot of NTs from my life, and effectively increased the proportion of Aspies (and other non-NTs) in my social circles. My job is in just the kind of place that you'd expect to find a high percentage of Aspies and other "disabled" people (public sector, scientific). So maybe that one in one hundred and fifty figure doesn't apply to my particular box of people?