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04 Jun 2010, 2:13 pm

You acted correctly. Battles that must be fought should be chosen wisely. He obviously needed the pencil more than you did. The kid behind you should not have laughed at the trouble he caused and both of them owe you an apology.


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04 Jun 2010, 2:25 pm

marshall wrote:
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Should I delete what I said? I guess I can't now since you've quoted me. I know it sounds harsh but I can't help but HATE bullies.

No, it's fine. Everyone gets mad. I just hope you never actually do any of that, or linger on such thoughts too long.

But nobody in civilized society is allowed to threaten to "beat my ass" for no reason. You just can't do that. This kid shouldn't even be in a classroom. He should be hauled off by the police and locked up. That society does nothing is SICK. If someone threatens me and nobody will do anything about it then I don't see what's wrong with using a baseball bat or weapon to defend myself. But that's besides the point. That kind of sh*t just shouldn't be tolerated PERIOD.



If I found out my kid bullied someone like this, there would be consequences.

Parent/s turn a blind eye to 'little johnny' , because they are too apathetic to care....... its easier to ignore it.
Single parents let the boy run with his friends.
Later on in the news, " little Johnny "slaughter's a bunch of people due to gang violence, and mom is in complete utter denial saying "My baby couldn't possibly have done such a thing"!
All the time in the big city news.



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04 Jun 2010, 2:35 pm

The guy is obviously an ass. Next time say it's not his freaking pencil. Then stick it down the back of your pants and dare him to go after it.



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04 Jun 2010, 2:40 pm

I think they were both messing with you on purpose--might have even planned it.

You did nothing wrong. Let it go, at least for now. Jerks like that aren't worth the trouble.

However, if he/they try it again, point to "Thing 2" and say to "Thing 1": "Ask him--he's stolen from you before" and walk away. Get a teacher involved if it looks like it's going to turn physical.

Some people get their kicks from trying to screw with other people's heads. Morons. :x

Btw, marshall, I hate bullies too. Don't feel bad about what you posted about what you'd LIKE to do--that doesn't mean you have done it or will do it. There is no "Thought Police" (not here, anyway :roll: ).


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04 Jun 2010, 2:57 pm

You weren't at fault. He's playing a game with you. He wanted to see if you would stand up for yourself and fight over the pencil. It's not about the pencil, people just don't like to feel like they're being taken advantage of...most people would fight back, while you took the time to work out a logical response, i.e. "I already have another pencil, there's no use fighting." If I had to guess I would say he's harmless, unless he does something that seems threatening. I think he's doing this stuff to try and understand you. It's intimidating to some people when they come across someone like you (or me) that isn't intimidated by them, isn't really bothered by them trying to agitate you, isn't bothered by name calling (him insulting you the other day), etc.



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04 Jun 2010, 3:00 pm

Spazzergasm wrote:
Did he actually hurt you?


Thankfully not.


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04 Jun 2010, 7:12 pm

Ferdinand wrote:
Today, I was using a blue mechanical pencil. I was working on something, but this kid (who was in my post about calling me that insult) said, "Why did you take my pencil, man?" It was not his, so I turned and gave a confused face, and he looked really mad. He walked over, grabbed my hand and opened my fingers, saying ,"Give me my pencil before I beat your ass."

I am not afraid, but I did it anyway because I have another pencils that I could use. This is just when the guy behind me laughed and said, "Here is your pencil, man." and gave the pencil that he stole from the assaulter. Then the assaulter said, "Why didn't you protect what was yours?" to me.

Should I have protected what was mine, or just obliged his ignorance-fueled rampage? Did I do anything wrong?
The right thing would be to set the bully straight, but I, myself have problems and react like you did if I am up against an offensive,dominating personality who may keep an argument going and tempt you into physical violence. If you're nervous
bound when it comes to physical fights or have a lack of words in a moment then maybe
your silent reaction was what the doctor ordered, at least the guilty party spoke up It is not
always easy dealing with bullies If you do, they just keep on and on and you always have to
be one step ahead. Nerves may affect that


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04 Jun 2010, 8:22 pm

Shebakoby wrote:
Next time say it's not his freaking pencil. Then stick it down the back of your pants and dare him to go after it.


I can see a few potential flaws with that plan.


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05 Jun 2010, 6:06 am

Moog wrote:
Shebakoby wrote:
Next time say it's not his freaking pencil. Then stick it down the back of your pants and dare him to go after it.


I can see a few potential flaws with that plan.


Hehe. :P



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05 Jun 2010, 9:39 am

You didn't do anything wrong, but don't be afraid to stand up for yourself. My instant reaction to something like that is to say in a pretty calm voice, "f**k off, it's not yours". Is he really going to try to start a fight in class? Maybe. It sounds like you're around some pretty rough kids. Could you sign up for some martial arts classes over the summer? Just a little training could help you avoid fights and in the event one was unavoidable, you could scare the crap out of your opponent and end the fight almost as quickly as it starts - and you wouldn't have to hurt him.

It'll do wonders for your assertiveness and confidence.



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05 Jun 2010, 11:24 am

I've been thinking about this and wanted to add. In schools and among children this kind of stuff often goes on without much consequence. In the adult world there are some people who prefer to live like that and beat on each other, but you have more choices not to participate in that kind of barbarism. You can get a restraining order against an individual who is threatening you which then escalates his crime to a much more serious offence. Not only are they threatening you but they are breaking a judges order, at least that's how it is in the USA.

Some of the stuff that is tolerated at school would not be tolerated in any reasonable kind of reasonable work or social envirnonment. Doing your best in school and going to college is probably the best way to leave that c**p behind. You deseve better and your superior social skills will be appreciated when you are among your own kind (non-neanderthals of whatever neurological status they happen to be).