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04 Jun 2010, 3:06 pm

any human can become whiny and complain about what the world owes them. a sense of entitlement is something that i do not believe is limited to just "dysfunctional" personalities and those with developmental disorders.


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04 Jun 2010, 3:18 pm

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The narcissist switches between social agility and social impairment voluntarily. His social dysfunctioning is the outcome of conscious haughtiness and the reluctance to invest scarce mental energy in cultivating relationships with inferior and unworthy others. When confronted with potential Sources of Narcissistic Supply, however, the narcissist easily regains his social skills, his charm, and his gregariousness.

I always thought that real narcissist, had very low self-esteem internally,yet went through great effort to project an air of charisma. While they had great need for external validation or narcissistic supply, because they felt they were impostors internally, they also resent anyone who gives them narcissistic supply for being gullible buffoons easily fooled.


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04 Jun 2010, 3:49 pm

Yeah true if a narcassisct is being treated like crap by people he will act all misrable but when treated well he will being charming and happy.

Much like people with aspegers they have low and hight feelings of self worth.



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04 Jun 2010, 5:17 pm

Many people with Aspergers get misdiagnosed as narcissistic by under trained psychiatrists. If this article is aimed at them it is good.


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04 Jun 2010, 5:30 pm

Jamesy wrote:
I always thought that real narcissist, had very low self-esteem internally,yet went through great effort to project an air of charisma. While they had great need for external validation or narcissistic supply, because they felt they were impostors internally, they also resent anyone who gives them narcissistic supply for being gullible buffoons easily fooled.


wait, you know my ex?


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04 Jun 2010, 5:45 pm

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Inevitably, Asperger's patients are perceived by others to be cold, eccentric, insensitive, indifferent, repulsive, exploitative or emotionally-absent. To avoid the pain of rejection, they confine themselves to solitary activities - but, unlike the schizoid, not by choice. They limit their world to a single topic, hobby, or person and dive in with the greatest, all-consuming intensity, excluding all other matters and everyone else. It is a form of hurt-control and pain regulation.


Speaking from personal experience, I found that the other children did not notice how different I was until I was eight, but the earliest special interest that I recall having was when I was five. Ante hoc ergo propter hoc? Sounds like Discworld.

Actually, my world does not feel narrow or confined. It feels huge and roomy, but equally, it feels cozy and full. And very, very blue. (I sometimes hate English. Wish I knew a language designed to communicate mental worlds.)

I've always felt a slight affinity for schizoids. They just want to be left alone, and everyone keeps acting like they're crazy. But for obvious reasons, I'd never seek them out for frienship. :wink:


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04 Jun 2010, 7:50 pm

"I've always felt an affinity for schizoids...but for obvious reasons, I'd never seek them out for friendship." :dwarf:



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05 Jun 2010, 4:45 am

This is what I don't like about psychiatric personality disorders, they all seem to overlap so much they're like a huge blur. Narcissists sound a bit like sociopaths for instance. Maybe narcissism is a symptom of sociopathy?



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05 Jun 2010, 4:57 am

The AS part is accurate (it's a clinical description of it after all, and most are along those lines). I don't know much about narcissistic PD, so I can't comment there.

O, one point: the conclusion of the narrow interest appears to be of a psychoanalytical approach. This fails as children with AS are often more obsessive compared to when they're adults, and children with AS most likely haven't developed the emotional desire to form attachments with others until school age, but even then, many can remain distant by not having formed ("developed") the usual social desire.