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06 Jun 2010, 4:43 pm

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We're as anxious as the next person. The difference is that we don't get as anxious because we feel bonded to the people around us, which for most people equals some kind of safety.

First you say you're anxious as the next person, then you say you don't get as anxious... :? So which is it? :)

I would guess that you mean you are as anxious as the next person - provided they are another NT, not an Aspie?

As an Aspie, I definitely feel less socially anxious when drunk. But I can see how being always less anxious would not be like being drunk, as you have none of the unpleasant physical effects. The loss of inhibitions certainly helps - up to a point.


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06 Jun 2010, 4:46 pm

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. . . ... reading faces... while someone is talking, if i am to read their face, by the time i've figured out what they might have meant by a facial expression or an inflection on a certain word, they've already said the next 10 sentences, which i totally missed because i was trying to figure out what they meant by some unsaid thing. . .

Yes, I struggle with this kind of thing very much, too. I tell myself loosey-goosey, ping-ponging back and forth, medium steps, and medium mistakes can actually be good because they give information. Of course all this is easier said than done. Two things that have helped me are politics, esp asking for signatures on petitions and staffing tables, and live poker games in Atlantic City and Las Vegas (because of rake and natural variance, I do not recommend it as a way to attempt to make money, and the textbook advice is that your bankroll needs to be at least 300 times your buy-in)

Esp with a woman who I'm starting to connect with. Sometimes she thinks she knows me way before she does. It's almost like I need to tell her, hold on, I'm a lot weirder (and not that that's a bad thing!) than you might think I am. And my work in writing/philosophy/spirituality boardly (I am comfortably agnostic) and endeavors to make the world a better place, are equally important to me as my own personal happiness and relationships. And I kind of think that's the way it should be, for as talented people we have a whole lot to contribute. But I'm learning this is just not the way it is for most 'normal' people.



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06 Jun 2010, 5:25 pm

poppyx wrote:
Being an NT is not like being drunk.

We're as anxious as the next person. The difference is that we don't get as anxious because we feel bonded to the people around us, which for most people equals some kind of safety.


Not in my observation...it seems like NTs can get pretty wound up too, just over different things, can snap and have breakdowns and everything else. I think we forget here that we're ALL human and I think part of that is being insecure to a certain degree, because deep down we realize we're not perfect and not living in a perfect world. Acting like we are two different species--and I am aiming that at everyone, not just one group or the other--doesn't help. And that's another human need, too, that we all share: wanting our common humanity to be recognized at the very same time as we want our differences to be recognized.



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06 Jun 2010, 5:46 pm

i have had my nuerotypical moments. believe me it isnt like feeling drunk but more of being lonely constintley searching for someone to spend the rest of your life with. why do you think there are so many dating comercials on tv? :eew:


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06 Jun 2010, 6:13 pm

Thats weird, people always say Im like a drunk. The singer of my band has always said Im like someone who has had a few beers.



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07 Jun 2010, 12:53 pm

[quote="dyingofpoetry"If people attempt to make me join in on something, then I usually just want to leave.[/quote]

That resistance is anxiety.