if you had the choice to be born would of chosen life?

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if you had the choice to be born would of chosen life?
yes 47%  47%  [ 62 ]
no 36%  36%  [ 48 ]
maybe 17%  17%  [ 23 ]
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18 Jun 2010, 5:45 pm

I said maybe. If I was choosing now, having lived this life for a while, no I wouldn't choose life, or I would choose a different life. But before this life started and I knew nothing, I suppose I would choose life over not existing at all. But what am I when I'm choosing? I must already be alive in some form to have conscious thought.

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18 Jun 2010, 5:47 pm

Autistic people don't live exclusively for themselves any more often than NTs do. Just because you can have a cheerful conversation doesn't mean you care about the other person; and just because you can't doesn't mean you don't care about them.

If you aren't currently being actively prevented from committing suicide, then your answer is "yes"... People who aren't currently enjoying life can nevertheless want to live.


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18 Jun 2010, 6:03 pm

Abraham wrote:
People are not born for their own sake but for the sake of those who are already alive.

This is a great paradox because the autistic person lives only for himself, and this is the real reason why he is such a repulsive character, and should not have been born in the first place.

^This^

Is wrong. People being alive is an inherently good; they are not born to please others, but to maximize the amount of choice (and hence, morality) in the world. The majority of humanity chooses to please themselves, and this is a major cause of human suffering (although not the biggest cause). This is a paradox, since in doing so they tend to minimize the amount of choice, both their own (prisons of the mind) and that of others (coercion) rather than maximising it, thus negating their own purpose to be alive.



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18 Jun 2010, 7:32 pm

Abraham wrote: "This is a great paradox because the autistic person lives only for himself, and this is the real reason why he is such a repulsive character, and should not have been born in the first place."

Isn't that interesting? Well I can't speak for others as I don't have other comparisons, but I was raised by a woman who only lived for herself. I don't believe she had autism. If anything, she was narcissistic. I think there are plenty of NT personalities out there who also live for themselves, & don't care the least if their actions cause others pain or trouble. But anyway, I digress.

On the subject of the poll, I chose maybe. I've spent the majority of my life wishing I were dead. However, if I could go back in time, I might choose life, if only I get to choose my parents. I didn't grow up around many kids, & all the ones I was around only one other had been adopted. However, he was adopted by an aunt, so he had that going for him. I was the oddball out, & never have fit into either side of the family. I hated being "the odd one." All I wanted was to fit in.


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18 Jun 2010, 8:02 pm

I'm one of the few "maybes"; having experienced good people, good books, good sex, good coffee, good movies, good chocolate, good music and on and on and on...

If I wanted to put the good and bad on a scale, it would probably be evenly weighted; however, I would like to have known what my options are before getting born.


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18 Jun 2010, 8:39 pm

I vote NO! If I had known as a child what my life was to be like, I would have ended it immediately. Life is the perfect form of hell. You are born, you suffer and you die. This is the middle part


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18 Jun 2010, 8:49 pm

Depends on the knowledge I'd have available when presented with the choice.

If I were to decide based on what I know now then, being the lazy individual that I am, I would've chosen to continue my non-existence.



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18 Jun 2010, 9:23 pm

I don't know, because I don't know what the alternative(s) is/are and I don't know what knowledge I would have had about my life or possible life when presented with such choice.



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18 Jun 2010, 9:31 pm

I would never choose to be born as the person I am with my brain
and all it's problems.

My brain has ruined every aspect of my life.


But I would've choosen to be born if I could've been almost anyone else in the modern developed world.

I actually think life is pretty fabulous for most people in the modern-day America, western Europe, Canada, Japan, etc....

It's never been better for people in the rich nations.

Thanks to my worthless lemon of a brain...i'm just one of the
wretched and miserable exceptions here in the land of plenty.



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18 Jun 2010, 10:40 pm

not sure about this thread. it is suggesting too much about self.

i am a maybe



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18 Jun 2010, 10:47 pm

Hard to say. I've wanted to and came close to or made foolish attempts to kill myself in the past and I don't really know if I could choose not to be born even if I wanted to. Call it my instinct of self preservation.



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18 Jun 2010, 11:06 pm

Although it took a long time for me to reach this conclusion, I would say yes. Life is a grind; and asperger's only makes it more of a grind. This difficulties can seem so overwhelming sometimes that I lean towards no (or yes with the condition that I am born NT).

It is really hard in having so many weaknesses and so few strengths, but at the same time it's kinda cool. Its really easy to see where we "fit" in life since we have so few options. NTs who have many options often take years and years to discover their fit. Our weaknesses guide us as much as our strengths into the right place.



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18 Jun 2010, 11:33 pm

Top choice topic

For those who voted No, I might add that upon your death you will not be aware that you ever lived. :P And you will not be aware of the moment of your death either.


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18 Jun 2010, 11:41 pm

I would choose to live--no hesitation. I have been through rough stuff as many here have...but I see a pattern and a purpose in it all, and I would never pass that up. I may joke about being a hybrid or a mutt or a hodgepodge, but I think that in SOME weird way it all fits together and this is how I am meant to be. :)


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19 Jun 2010, 12:21 am

Yes, I would definitely choose to live. My life is far from perfect, but I don't mind living it.



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19 Jun 2010, 12:24 am

sartresue wrote:
Top choice topic

For those who voted No, I might add that upon your death you will not be aware that you ever lived. :P And you will not be aware of the moment of your death either.





No offense or anything...but I believe this is stating the obvious.



The OP's question was hypothetical ofcourse...."if impossibility X were possible would you...."?

I obviously just stated the obvious too.


Nothing under the sun seems unobvious anymore.

Eh...nevermind.