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Michhsta
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11 Jul 2010, 6:04 pm

I have done some mental health advocacy for a couple of people who have gone past suicidal ideation into suicidal intent and I gotta say, it is awful. Both people survived thank goodness when they got the right help.

I have had suicidal ideation many times over my life, but it is usually a clinical feeling, not necessarily attached to depression or hopelessness. It passes but does disturb me at times.

I don't like thinking about it, yet I do unconditionally accept the thought when it arrives. Fighting the thought only makes it more powerful. Take the power away from the thought, and it loses its potency.

I do agree with euthanasia whether it be administered by self or others in a clinical and medical setting. And I strongly advise the bereaved of someone who has ended their own life, that despite the terrible pain they must have been in to do that to themselves, it was ultimately their choice and the bereaved is not responsible.

Suicide is never to be taken lightly yet platforms need to be there to discuss it without stigma. Despite my chronic misanthropy, no human being should suffer unnecessarily when the resources are there to help them. It is a failure in society as far as I am concerned. People who are suicidal need to be heard, and not judged.......

......JUST helped.

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11 Jul 2010, 6:28 pm

Like it? Usually when I'm thinking about suicide, I'm not enjoying anything.

But I have had conversations when not feeling suicidal which entailed what would be the quickest, most painless way. In this rational context, I don't enjoy it more than any other conversation regarding the best techniques of some other subject where I'd have an opinion.

Edit: horrid sentence fixed x2 :roll:



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11 Jul 2010, 7:41 pm

I don't enjoy thinking about it, but I have considered methods. I think I decided that sleeping pills would be the least chicken-proof.
I wouldn't do it though. It's sort of pointless and awful at the same time... Even one person who cares about you is a sufficient reason not to, and then there are the billions and billions of people who don't know you and don't give a damn. It would be so futile and petty...like pulling one weed out of a giant opium poppy field.. weird comparison? I'm feeling weird.
Plus I would be so annoyed if I managed to off myself and then was reincarnated as a catfish or a fly.
Incidentally, I am watching Spongebob and Plankton just said "Man, what does it take to get run over around here! :x "


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11 Jul 2010, 7:52 pm

I don't like thinking about it but I think about it every day anyway. It just pops into my head like people think about sex every 6 seconds.



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11 Jul 2010, 9:08 pm

Pistonhead wrote:
KaiG wrote:
From a logical standpoint, it makes no sense.


From a logical standpoint, nothing about existing makes sense.



Just think about suicide each night when you go to sleep.

going to sleep is just practice, when you die you simply never have to wake up. life goes on without you


how could it be logical to suddenly exist, then cease again after a while



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12 Jul 2010, 3:54 am

currently now no. 25 years from now? Maybe.



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12 Jul 2010, 4:53 am

eon wrote:
Pistonhead wrote:
KaiG wrote:
From a logical standpoint, it makes no sense.


From a logical standpoint, nothing about existing makes sense.



Just think about suicide each night when you go to sleep.

going to sleep is just practice, when you die you simply never have to wake up. life goes on without you


how could it be logical to suddenly exist, then cease again after a while

That's a really, really sad thought. Sad but true. :(



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12 Jul 2010, 5:20 am

I had constant (5-6 times in 10 minute period) suicidal ideation. This all stopped the moment I discovered the possibility I had aspergers, well nearly, I still might get one maybe two very superficial suicidal thoughts in a day.

To answer the specific question did I / do I like these thoughts? hard to say, they were just an integral part of my day. Do I enjoy not having them? absolutely yes


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12 Jul 2010, 8:52 am

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I do. I don't necessarily mean actually planning to commit suicide, just thinking about it in general. For some reason I find it very liberating. It reminds me that I'm alive because I choose to be.


Yeah, I know what you mean. I mean, it's not necessarily a genuine contemplation of suicide so much as it is the fascination with the idea that one would actually want to kill themselves and what exactly would make you personally commit suicide. I guess the reason why I'm so fascinated with suicide (and death/violence as a whole) is probably because I have been and continue to be terrified of it and I suppose we're supposed to be scared of death. In many ways, I have to thank having had an anxiety disorder for my morbid fascination with things like suicide, mental illness, murder, rape, drug abuse, etc...

Just to let everyone know that I too do not imagine myself or others murdering others/commiting suicide purely for the idea of "getting back at someone". Again, it's about the fascination with life and death and how you have chosen life and what hapens when we die, etc.

A serious contemplation of suicide is not in the least bit enjoyable or advisable. However (as with fantasising about killing others) there's something releiving about imagining a suicide attempt (also it's better to imagine it than to actually act upon it). Afterall, I enjoy "Johnny The Homicidal Maniac" and though I don't condone anything Johnny does, I enjoy the gorn. "Funny Games" pretty much teaches us that violence is in our nature (we don't have to watch the film in it's entirety and yet many of us watch it to the end, so obviously we were getting something from the cruelty and violence of the film). As long as it is simply a fantasy and not a serious contemplation of taking your own life, I see no problem with it.



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12 Jul 2010, 12:25 pm

LOL the hanging picture made me laugh too...

It is like a coping mechanism for me. If it gets worse I'll die, if that happens I'll die...I'm sad wanna die. I have always thought about it as a way out of whatever...in a traffic jam--wanna die--trapped on an airplane on the tarmack--wanna die---put in jail--will die--

Think about it every day, many times a day.



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12 Jul 2010, 12:59 pm

The human condition has always fascinated me, and suicide especially fascinates me. It's partially due to my own attempt when I was 18, but I believe it interested me long before then.

It's not so much the act itself I think about, but what drives someone to take their own life. The hopelessness, loneliness, uselessness, and the idea that you only ever hurt those around you. It's a highly emotionally charged decision and it really fascinates me how other people react to suicides, as well.


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12 Jul 2010, 1:17 pm

Yes. When I think about suicide so many new thoughts and and questions. Like where will I go? Or have I done all I ever wanted to do? And those open doors till hours and hours pass till I and I forget what started the train of thought. I also think of it as dark humor. It's just so illogical it makes me smile a bit.


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12 Jul 2010, 5:21 pm

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12 Jul 2010, 5:51 pm

I do not think about (my) suicide although I have some political opinions on the general question of suicide. I think people have the same right to suicide as they do to self defense.

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12 Jul 2010, 9:43 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:
Well well. In actually doing it NO WAY! Although I've been upset enough to "imagine" different ways. Overall from a research point it's an amazing topic. Did you know the Golden Gate Bridge was the most jumped off bridge!! !! People were going to kill themselves over NEW COKE! and Because Dumbledore died in Half-Blood Prince SOMEONE COMMITED SUICIDE!! !! !! !! Amazing Suicide info. IMO. Come on threatening to kill yourself over Coke changing there flavor or a fictional character dieing I don't tend to swear but in this case WTF! LOL! Sorry to offend. :-)
It's because they were already suicidal and just ready for something to tip them over. It's not like people without a scrap of depression just randomly decided to kill themselves--they were almost certainly already pretty bad off, and editing their thoughts toward the negative to such a degree that even a small thing seemed catastrophic. Ever yelled at somebody because you've been having a horrible, horrible day and are ready to collapse and they innocently asked you whether you'd remembered to put your laundry in the hamper? It's like that.


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12 Jul 2010, 10:03 pm

"In death, the weight of the body is lifted."

I fantasize about death daily.
That's where drug use and dark ambient come into come into play.

I'm not totally unhappy in life, but, well, I'm definitely not satisfied. If I were given the opportunity to kill myself, with the guarantee of reemerging as another life form afterward, (even without knowledge of whether that life would take place on earth or not, or in a human form, or not,) I would immediately shoot myself.