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Mysty
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02 Sep 2010, 6:51 pm

MrLoony wrote:
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What happens when HFAs (written > verbal) start getting diagnosed with AS and those with AS (verbal > written) start getting diagnosed as HFA?


Written IS verbal. Verbal means word. Written language is MORE verbal than speech. No tone of voice.


...No. This is not true at all.

I for one have a much easier time writing out my thoughts than speaking them. Whenever I try and speak, I draw blanks all over the place. My mind will essentially stop working. This does not happen when I am writing.

I knew an aspie that was exceptionally well-spoken, but when it came to writing things down, he couldn't do it at all.


You've missed my point. My point has nothing to do with autism and Asperger's and their traits. It's about the meaning of the word verbal. The proper contrast is written versus spoken. Written and spoken language are both verbal; both use words. Spoken language has more non-verbals, thus my statement that written language is more-verbal than speech. I'm not arguing with your point, I'm saying "verbal" isn't the right word.


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02 Sep 2010, 6:53 pm

MrLoony wrote:
Mysty wrote:
MrLoony wrote:
What happens when HFAs (written > verbal) start getting diagnosed with AS and those with AS (verbal > written) start getting diagnosed as HFA?


Written IS verbal. Verbal means word. Written language is MORE verbal than speech. No tone of voice.


...No. This is not true at all.

I for one have a much easier time writing out my thoughts than speaking them. Whenever I try and speak, I draw blanks all over the place. My mind will essentially stop working. This does not happen when I am writing.

I knew an aspie that was exceptionally well-spoken, but when it came to writing things down, he couldn't do it at all.

I think you're relying on a personal experience and a wrongly defined term. The fact is there is no real difference, but most people define HFA and AS as a speech delay or none. It has nothing to do with writing ability or even spoken ability (if speech is present) in adulthood.



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02 Sep 2010, 8:10 pm

I have high fuctioning autism. It is more easy for me to comunciate by writing and tyeping.



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02 Sep 2010, 9:05 pm

Mysty wrote:
You've missed my point. My point has nothing to do with autism and Asperger's and their traits. It's about the meaning of the word verbal. The proper contrast is written versus spoken. Written and spoken language are both verbal; both use words. Spoken language has more non-verbals, thus my statement that written language is more-verbal than speech. I'm not arguing with your point, I'm saying "verbal" isn't the right word.


Merriam-Webster wrote:
spoken rather than written <a verbal contract>


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03 Sep 2010, 7:32 am

MrLoony wrote:
Mysty wrote:
You've missed my point. My point has nothing to do with autism and Asperger's and their traits. It's about the meaning of the word verbal. The proper contrast is written versus spoken. Written and spoken language are both verbal; both use words. Spoken language has more non-verbals, thus my statement that written language is more-verbal than speech. I'm not arguing with your point, I'm saying "verbal" isn't the right word.


Merriam-Webster wrote:
spoken rather than written <a verbal contract>


Well, since you looked it up, you know that's not the only definition, despite quoting it like it is.

The term non-verbal communication does NOT refer to speaking words. It refers to everything besides. Verbal is the words. And since you looked "verbal" up, you very well know that verbal can refers to words, even if you are pretending that definition wasn't there while quoting another one.


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