I will not have children because I dont want to spead AS

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I'm sorry, but almost all of this is demonstrably false. The richest people are NOT being selected for; by definition, being selected for means you have more offspring that survive to adulthood, period. A subsistence farmer in the Third World with ten malnourished illiterate kids is from an evolutionary point of view vastly more successful than Bill Gates. The rich are not being selected for. IQ is being selected against - people with high IQ demonstrably tend to have fewer children. I think there are also studies showing aspies are less likely to have children than NTs (and it seems blatantly obvious for full-blown autism), so autism is also actively being selected against. All these arguments that autism is the evolutionary future are pipe dreams.

I agree with Corp, I think the OP should not breed

Not quite. Autism in an NT world is actually quite adaptive. You add some autism-type genetics, and you get techies and nerds and a sprinkling of extreme autistics. Those techies benefit the whole society, even if they don't reproduce as much, and the society passes on their genes for them through their relatives.

There are many examples of "maladaptive" traits actually turning out to be evolutionary advantages. Study sickle-cell anemia for a classic example.

It's almost overwhelmingly nice to see that the majority of replies to this thread have been from people rejecting the poisoned mindstate of believing that autism is a disease, and instead they have been expressing a feeling completely in favour of spreading the aspie seed far and wide. I can't help but think "F..K, man! That's the f..king spirit! F..K these f..king timid weak downers!! "



I smelled a troll from the outset, but even a ridiculously mentally stunted internet aggravator stands as a perfect opportunity for us to show how utterly flawed the childish and inconsequential view of the NTs is. While he may be thinking "lol, I can't wait until my internet buddies see the corny sh*t that I made these ret*ds say", he is unexpectedly faced with nothing but people laughing at him, filled with the resolve to produce enough aspie babies to outnumber him and make his offspring (if he can even have any) think they're living on the "Wrong Planet", while they sit on the internet trying to aggravate people because they're too incompetent to do so in the real world.



There are so many things in your post that I agree with, could quote, and eccentrically worship as divinely inspired "words to live by". Have my babies.

Uh, no, I mean, wait... Let's go through an unnecessary courtship ritual, partake in meaningless social ceremonies that have nothing to do with reproduction, we so solemnly swear, and then have my cute little aspie babies...






.......Babies who will then go on to conquer the universe, in all their quirky savant greatness and superiority.

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What? What's wrong with you dude?

I can tell you hate the world and have a distorted view on life and for some reason assume your children will be as 'miserable' as you, but why wouldn't you want your kid to experience that? At least he/she will get the change to live.

Right now I'm depressed and I can't see myself coming out of it any time soon, but I still would want to have a child even if he had to experience the same hardships I've had to experience. Maybe by then I'll be able to share some wisdom with the kid to help him too.

Why do you even post things like this? This is a pointless thread. I feel like you just posted it just so you can have people question your motives like I just did. Anyways, I think you have bigger things to worry about than rather or not to have a child. Go get some help. Or if you don't want to play call 1-800-SUICIDE.

Well thank god the OP won't have children! Less ignorant people to deal with!

A therapist once told me that if my boyfriend and I get married and have children, that they would either have Asperger's or be severely autistic. She had also said if we wanted to have children, we would have to talk to a doctor to find out if our children would have AS or not, and my mother said the same thing. We had talked about it, and I had said if that was an issue, we could adopt. He had said that he was OK with it. On the other hand, both my mother and current therapist had said it could take a really long time to adopt a child. I told my mother I don't want my children to have AS, and I don't want a severely autistic child, either, because I don't know how I could handle it. Then she and my current therapist both told me that if my bf and I adopt, we don't know what kind of problems the adopted child would have, either, especially if they're from another country. However, my desire to have children is still as strong as ever, whether they are my own biological children or adopted. I think it all depends on how much you want children, and whether or not you are prepared to raise a child with Asperger's or severe autism. You also need to decide if you are prepared to raise an adopted child with problems.

So, what if you have a child before you're diagnosed? Would that person be selfish too?
I have a child btw, he's not an aspie.

Resistance to malaria does enhance your physical survival; autism does not. I don't think there is any evidence that relatives of autistics are more likely to reproduce than families with nobody on the spectrum, and since the autistics themselves are less likely to reproduce, yes, autism is being selected against. Technology is rather irrelevant; the humans of the future are going to be the descendants of those having more kids today, and nowhere is that the techies and nerds - it's the uneducated and the poor who have the most children generally, not programmers. Neither is technology more relevant from an evolutionary point of view at a societal level; technologically advanced Japan, South Korea and Taiwan have some of the lowest birth rates in the world, while it's the less technologically advanced parts of Asia and Africa where the population is exploding.

Neither would I, to be honest.

...such a shame, dont you remember the anxiety of going to public school AS people? Dont you know the lonley torment? the distorted perceptions you have?

Why pass this on?

Less of Jenny McCarthy's henchmen to contaminate this planet.

Why not?

I'd like to dedicate a song, to the OP:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OypL-DR63c[/youtube]

By sheer force of numbers, the most primitive, unintelligent and inferior braindead monkey-men are more likely to reproduce than even the very most intelligent and biologically superior NTs. Not only are the superiors far outnumbered, limiting their probability of success, but again their potential mates on the superior end of the scale are also far outnumbered by inferior specimens on the lower end who are only interested in taking mates from the larger group of specimens who are only proficient in the use of a wooden club.

The numerical probability of aspie reproduction says absolutely nothing of the ultimate potential of their genetic superiority over the average mindless and witless NT who doesn't even know how to survive in this world without receiving paid orders from someone greater than he.

The likelyhood of reproduction does not equate to the ultimate suitability of reproduction, nor does it exclude the possibility of the "less likely" from reproducing. You only have to look around at all the aspie parents on WP to know that. The more "inadequate" having a lesser probability does not imply that the more inadequate will not also reproduce regardless of that lesser probability. They are not all competing for the same mate, after all. There is room for many more than one successful "parent".

You shouldn't try to focus negatively on reasons why we might fail, and argue that point. You can just as easily expend your energies by trying to think up reasons why we wouldn't fail. In the end, since both of these lines of reasoning would be developed by your own brain, you'd find them both equally as valid as far as logical coherence goes, with the only difference being that one line of reasoning serves you better than the other.

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Public schooling isn't the only option. I think an AS child would thrive better in a homeschooling or other alternative education setting, and if I were a parent of an AS child I would better understand their educational needs. Having children is a selfish act on it's own, there isn't anything more selfish about desiring children of the same neurology (unless you were to take this on a extreme level of aborting those of a neurology you didn't want -- but that's no possible yet. I would think not having children for your reasoning is kind of related.)