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27 Sep 2010, 10:36 pm

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I don't think they have these type of screening tests in Canada for the reason being our laws our very strong. They cannot have any form of screening like this UNLESS IT AFFECTS SAFETY and the EMPLOYER MUST PROVE THAT. If a store had that type of screening here for the purpose of keeping autistics from getting hired, they would be slapped down by the government and the courts. Even for drug tests, the EMPLOYER MUST PROVE it affects safety.


If you only America could have that kind of sensible policy. I completely agree those tests are not only ridiculous, but frankly if you've even looked at how they're employed, they are a joke.

You get virtually no real data about a prospective employee from such a test and all it does is potentially filters out the truthful ones. Anyone who looks into research about real criminals (particularly sociopaths) can see that those tests are just another game that people like that use to make themselves appear normal.

A question like "Did you hurt small animals as a child" will never be answered honestly by a person who actually did that at length (to use an extreme example).

Now if you're applying for a position in government that may be one thing, but target or walmart? Give me a break.



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27 Sep 2010, 11:05 pm

Tory_canuck wrote:
I don't think they have these type of screening tests in Canada for the reason being our laws our very strong. They cannot have any form of screening like this UNLESS IT AFFECTS SAFETY and the EMPLOYER MUST PROVE THAT. If a store had that type of screening here for the purpose of keeping autistics from getting hired, they would be slapped down by the government and the courts. Even for drug tests, the EMPLOYER MUST PROVE it affects safety.


i envy you. if there were no canada, somebody'd have to invent one and fast.



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28 Sep 2010, 6:53 am

I think those tests should be illegal. Done several, often got hired, sometimes did not.

The problem is that there is NO WAY to know what are the "right" answers the employer wants. Being honest is a good way to never get hired, and really, while an employer has a right to hire the person they feel is right for the job, these tests really force you to try and figure out what they are looking for and LIE by answering accordingly. It gets around an honest dialogue via an interview where both sides can answer questions.

On a positive note, if you're drawing benefits that forces you to do a BS job search, you can go someplace you don't want to work, really muck up the application test and know you get credit for "applying" for work but not worry about having to turn down an offer you know you don't want to get.



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28 Sep 2010, 11:44 am

Mdyar wrote:
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I had one where I had to draw a tree. I put in as many details as possible, as I like drawing trees.

It turned out they wanted the kindergarten version of a tree. I spoke to two who were hired and they both drew trees in standard kid style.

:P

What's up with the tree stuff? Is it that since I.Q. testing isn't allowed in employment screening( USA), and that this a sort of remedial cognitive test to sift things out ?

And though I'm not artistic, I believe I would have swayed to the "literal" myself, here. :lol:


Tree style topic

The testing, which involved other sections as well, were done to see how quickly a person could make decisions, work with a group/team, and prosper in a fast paced environment. I am from Canada, and this test was offered by Cora's Breakfast and Lunch restaurant. You have to be artsy, but very fast, as it is fast food but not supposed to look fast. they do not want any slowpokes or fussy people, who kinger over the food, much of which would spoil quickly if left out in the air too long, for example apple/pear slices, as they do not use preservatives to make the fruit look artificial. according to their rules.

I find the weird shapes to their apple slices bizarre, but they make the pieces look large and healthy, even if the food itself is high calorie/fat and sugar. :roll:


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28 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm

sartresue wrote:
Mdyar wrote:
sartresue wrote:
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I had one where I had to draw a tree. I put in as many details as possible, as I like drawing trees.

It turned out they wanted the kindergarten version of a tree. I spoke to two who were hired and they both drew trees in standard kid style.

:P

What's up with the tree stuff? Is it that since I.Q. testing isn't allowed in employment screening( USA), and that this a sort of remedial cognitive test to sift things out ?

And though I'm not artistic, I believe I would have swayed to the "literal" myself, here. :lol:


Tree style topic

The testing, which involved other sections as well, were done to see how quickly a person could make decisions, work with a group/team, and prosper in a fast paced environment. I am from Canada, and this test was offered by Cora's Breakfast and Lunch restaurant. You have to be artsy, but very fast, as it is fast food but not supposed to look fast. they do not want any slowpokes or fussy people, who kinger over the food, much of which would spoil quickly if left out in the air too long, for example apple/pear slices, as they do not use preservatives to make the fruit look artificial. according to their rules.

I find the weird shapes to their apple slices bizarre, but they make the pieces look large and healthy, even if the food itself is high calorie/fat and sugar. :roll:


Oh, O.K. Thanx.

I probably would have bombed all the "quickly parts" as anything "quickly" is my Achilles heel.



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28 Sep 2010, 1:34 pm

Once upon a time, I was a shift manager at a restaurant. There was a home in town for boys with disabilities who were no longer being cared for by their families. I was interviewing someone from this home for a job as a dish washer. I'm not sure what his disability was, but looking back now, he was probably on the spectrum.

I administered one of these tests verbally to him... he was completely honest. To questions like "do you prefer to work alone or with others" he'd answer "alone". I knew that he wouldn't get the job if he didn't score above a certain percent on the test, so I ignored his answers and filled in the ones people are supposed to pick. He was the first person to ever score a 100% at our location, and worked there for several years.

Thinking about that today made me even happier that I did the right thing... by doing the wrong thing. :lol:



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28 Sep 2010, 2:10 pm

You have to answer strongly agree or strongly disagree. Any other answer will be thrown out and you score will be too low.



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28 Sep 2010, 7:43 pm

When I first started working at Target, I was only interested in working the stockroom because I did not want to interact with people, but I ended up pushing shopping carts. It was a job that required very little intellectual ability and even for a busy store, I was always out there on my own, but, I got better at working with people and started learning other area of the store. By the time I had left the company, I had cross trained in almost everything.

The store I worked at before I left has several people with special needs, and I believe there are incentives to employ such people.



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29 Sep 2010, 11:01 am

I filled one of those out online to see what they're like, after a friend had tried and "did not fit the profile" for the job. I think the ACLU should sue to abandon those tests. They only started them after a few nutty employees committed some mass murders, and the test is supposed to weed out potential murderers. Just a political "feel-good" measure.

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