Are hipsters screwing over autism/nerds by being normal?

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Ah here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%2 ... culture%29

Hipster is a slang term that first appeared in the 1940s, and was revived in the 1990s and 2000s often to describe types of young, recently settled urban middle class adults and older teenagers with interests in non-mainstream fashion and culture, particularly alternative music, indie rock, independent film, magazines such as Vice and Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.[1] In some contexts, hipsters are also referred to as scenesters.[2]

From google.

Nope, not a hipster then. But I still don't see why being one is such an issue. How is all that stuff bad?

Does dressing like The Kinks make me a hipster?

^ It makes you you.

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re topic about autistic trying to talk to arty or techy people who are NT, well I will say that it is human nature for some NTs to have a quirky side and like quirky sorts of things. Many NTs hide their unusual/nerdy interests from their friends, particularly NTs who might have a few traits.

But, these people are still socially savvy and it will be as hard to talk to them as anyone, except for those who either have some common personality traits, or connect with you through the interest....

Warsie wrote:

This is more or less what I was thinking. Such music usually annoys the s**t out of me and I find it rather soulless, robotic, mechanized and downright ugly.

I just don't get the appeal....but to each their own though.

It sounds like back in the sixties when the Beatles screwed over Indian cutlure by stealing their sitar - India has never recovered.

i think this deserves a bump

What?

This only works if autistic people were the 'original inhabitants' of nerd culture, which is a big stretch.

There are folks with autistic traits in every subculture.

I don't even know why I am responding to this post. Nobody got inflated out of their homes when nerd culture caught on.

being in a cool scene, you quickly find that things are run by, & people there admire most, the NTs--& most of all the extraverted NTs--who are part of it. this is less true in nerdy scenes, which are often based upon accomplishments; nevertheless, wherever there are social gatherings (e.g. scifi conventions), this tends to happen.

which is why purely merit-based rankings (prizes & contests) are a necessary adjunct.

social visibility of subcultures is a separate question. (in Steampunk this is an ongoing debate: is media coverage a Good Thing or not?) of course, there's no going back to a prior state of invisibility. but i think for the less socially-ept, the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. you might even eventually be able to make a living at it...

*bump*

I listen to video game music all the time because it helps me relax, but I don't think it's hip, or consider myself a hipster for it. I will often take advantage of the automatic looping of nearly all video game music just to let it keep playing. In addition, I am on the autism spectrum, but I suppose by listening to it I can't be?

In fact, it used to be I was ashamed of listening to video game music because I was often made fun of for not being aware of any of the bands other people liked to listen to.

To me, Hip generally refers to the music scene. In my case, it was the Hard Rock/Art Rock of 1970s & 1960s, (replaced by New Wave & MTV in the 80s. Uggh!).
Generally, hip meant being up on what was going on in the current "scene" ( see above).
In the 1950s, Beat poets were the Hip scene. Go figure.
This kind of thing changes 2-3 times a decade. Besides, I do not think there is really a fad towards being Nerdy or Artistic. Nerdy meant something different from "Hip" in my youth. Trust me, FAR DIFFERENT!

Sincerely,
Matthew

Ah, hipsters. Where do I begin....

For a single sentence, how about: A poor collection of healthy, but lost souls with many (but mediocre) talents that seldom feature any widely practical purpose.

I seem to have more exposure to them than most people as today. For starters, they've been invading parts of my nearest metro area (Pittsburgh, PA). They particularly look for run-down areas, just above the stage where violence is overly prevalent and the where buildings are one step above condemned. Then, miraculously magical works of art and urban revitalization appear, as if sent down from the heavens above. On second thought, NOT. If they put half the energy they put into that stuff - into everyday issues facing the average American citizen - THAT would be a miracle.

On a more granular level, my personal definition of a hipster (by statistics only; individual cases may vary): Raised in suburban environments under a wide range of sheltered life circumstances, with extraordinarily and unrealistically high spirits and self esteem. And the greatest part, age 18 hits, where they decide to embark on the fabulous journey halfway across the country to some god-forsaken city (usually for university), where they move into little sheltered urban hipster communities to circlejerk each other's egos with fashion, art, science, games, and public works, supplemented by the world's finest collections of food and drink, to the tune of off-beat (yet oddly but wholly pussyfoot) styles of music.

Am I finished? Yeah, I guess. BTW this is meant to be anecdotal (everyone needs a good roast once in a while!)..

hipster hate = petty tribalism.

I'm just waiting for stimming to become a mainstream fad. Imagine clubs dedicated to stimming instead of dancing! I also look forward to the day when having tangential conversations that can, for example, tie together quantum mechanics, the reunification of Germany and My Little Pony in the span of about 5 minutes becomes cool. However, I will also just take data dumping becoming the next big thing as a consolation prize. Sadly though, I see none of this becoming the next big thing so, sadly, autism will not become hip.

This is what I think. Personally, I don't like labeling people but I think the whole hipster/emo scene as pathetic as it is, it's actually helping people with a nerdy reputation. I find that the past few years people have been more accepting of being different. Now that's not to say that the bullying problem has gone away because it hasn't, it's always been there and probably always will be but I think our culture has been way more accepting of being different overall. Do I like the styles? Not really. Is it kind of annoying that people want to dress that way to look "cool"? Partially yes and partially no. I mean, if they actually knew how it felt...but at the same time it's being more accepting for differences if you know what I mean.