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Brown06
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12 Oct 2010, 10:11 pm

I took it and scored "very low" on both, is this cognitive disorder linked to aspergers??

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12 Oct 2010, 10:13 pm

I definitely think I've seen enough to start pushing for some in depth cognitive/executive function testing now. I think this is the real root of actual dysfunction and probably even a bonafide disability that explains my spotty and diverse work history. It certainly would explain why I've never been able to keep a job longer than three years!

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12 Oct 2010, 10:18 pm

Brown06 wrote:

I took it and scored "very low" on both, is this cognitive disorder linked to aspergers??

It can be. It's not a "given" but cognitive perception problems are certainly linked to AS as well as several other disorders such as ADD, ADHD, etc.

The reason I went looking for something like this is that AS, PDD-NOS (which is what my DX actually is), are often not even considered for disability. Lower executive and cognitive functioning however, can be strong evidence of a lowered ability to function well in the working world. If it's shown to be poor enough, that alone could be considered a bonafide disability.

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12 Oct 2010, 10:48 pm

I scored 53 in Verbal Memory and 55 in Executive Functioning which is average on both... but I can see the results of the test being different nearly every time if I took it again. I also would say some of the test would seem inaccurate like flashing incorrect words in front of your face and words you are supposed to remember... then later asking you to repeat the same test with incorrect words in it... it creates issues with consistency so I don't think I'd score the same next time The flashing shapes was the only thing I could see mimicking the same results or close to the same if the test was retaken. I'm just curious to know how accurate this test is or if it is even valuable since the results aren't likely to be the same if retaken. Plus it's not like I actually memorized the word sequences... I just recalled seeing certain letter patterns and would hit space... so part of my test was kinda pointless because I just recalled familiar pieces of whole words. I wouldn't have remembered the actual words of more than a few if I had been asked to verbally repeat them

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12 Oct 2010, 10:54 pm

Talis wrote:

The flashing shapes was the only thing I could see mimicking the same results or close to the same if the test was retaken. I'm just curious to know how accurate this test is or if it is even valuable since the results aren't likely to be the same if retaken. Plus it's not like I actually memorized the word sequences... I just recalled seeing certain letter patterns and would hit space... so part of my test was kinda pointless because I just recalled familiar pieces of whole words. I wouldn't have remembered the actual words of more than a few if I had been asked to verbally repeat them

I'm sure this may not be true for some. I wondered the same thing as I began to notice the test is exactly the same each time you take it, but then after taking it many times, I also noticed that for me, that fact actually doesn't matter. Even after several times I still can't remember enough of the words to make a dent in it consistently, and the squares and circles ~ forget it!

Something tells me that if your functioning is truly low end most of the time, the repetitive nature of it probably doesn't really matter at all.

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12 Oct 2010, 11:18 pm

MrXxx wrote:

Talis wrote:

You could be right about averaging... I just find it odd that the test isn't more consistent is all. I retook the test and the word list changed (It seemed to change for me when re-clicking the link) possibly giving me a worse result in the verbal memory because I started repeating former test words but I got near the same averages. I got 49 in Verbal Memory (Low Average) and 52 in Executive Functioning (Average)... even though the test seems inconsistent somehow I hit near the same averages with only a 3 to 4 point drop

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12 Oct 2010, 11:30 pm

See, that's the thing. I think the word list is the same every time, but I can't be sure. I can't remember them all either way!

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12 Oct 2010, 11:50 pm

I took it several times and always above average verbal, very low executive functioning. Which fits me perfectly. Mostly my classes don't require my full attention anyway so it's not a big deal having attention problems, but in my group project class it's a lot harder for me to function for various reasons but a big part is executive functioning stuff.

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13 Oct 2010, 12:15 am

Just took the test twice
Both times I scored identical in verbal memory, 84th percentile. - Above Average
The word list DOES change.

For the Executive Functioning, I first got down in the 14th percentile, (low average) and scored in the 68th (average) the second time.

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13 Oct 2010, 4:40 am

Verbal memory: Above average (93 percentile)
Executive Functioning: Low (8 percentile)

Interesting. With the matching colours/shapes I would hit a key and keep thinking "No! Why did you that! You know that's the wrong answer!".

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14 Oct 2010, 3:47 am

The difference between these tests and IQ is interesting, that someone with a high IQ score can have a very low score in an executive function test. One think I notice from experience is that I break up many problems that I work on into separate tasks without attention-shift - e.g. when I check hospital records, I check all the missing values, then all the age / DoB mismatches, and so on. Most of my colleagues prefer to go patient-by-patient looking for all types of error at once.

This test seems quite narrow - are there any other (online) executive function or cognitive function tests you can point to?

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14 Oct 2010, 4:25 am

I scored an average and a below average. I don't feel like retaking it to see if I improve. I have been tested very often in the past and I seem to fail consistently on tests I don't see the point of. I can't remember words easily if I honestly have no interest in them. And the shifting colors and shapes... when will that ever happen in real life? Probably when you work as a drone in some sort of cookie-factory. Actually it reminds me more of the work I did in a factory that produced bricks. I had to sort out the broken ones (wrong shape) and discolored ones. Mind-numbing pointless work. Strange thing is that I was genuinely good at it but I always questioned why they couldn't automate it.Besides that, who cares what color the bricks in the garden are anyway. Ah well...

I'm shocked to hear a followup test costs 350 dollar. They actually use the subject test-scores to devise new tests to ask money for. Loads of IQ tests also ask ridiculous amounts of money for results. Whenever I'm faced with a real life test I can't sleep the nights before. Actually any form of test gets me stressed out .. even the one I just took.

I recently took the Aspie quizt, 150 question form.

...Your Aspie score: 142 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 63 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie...

Now I'm faced with a problem whether or not to tell my psychiatrist who is treating me for anxiety disorder and panic attacks. I'm scared if I tell them I will have to undergo more testing. In the past I've been treated for depression and anxiety. They never really tried to get to the bottom of things. I don't feel like taking more pills. But still I would love to be formally diagnosed so people won't treat me as sick any longer.

Can anyone relate to this?

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14 Oct 2010, 4:46 am

Verbal Memory:

Above Avg

Executive Funtioning:

Very Low

I dont know what any of this means. But this is what I scored

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14 Oct 2010, 12:50 pm

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I'm shocked to hear a followup test costs 350 dollar. They actually use the subject test-scores to devise new tests to ask money for. Loads of IQ tests also ask ridiculous amounts of money for results. Whenever I'm faced with a real life test I can't sleep the nights before. Actually any form of test gets me stressed out .. even the one I just took.

It's not even a follow-up test. Rather....it's nothing more than a consultation which doesn't include ANY psychometric tests having to do with memory or anything else. That's the figure they quoted me over the phone. They said they also accept insurance, but my insurance does not cover any psych care or assessment. The consultation would cost less if you're poor (and can prove it) and live in Alachua county (where Gainsville, Fl/UF is located). Well...I am poor, but I live a few hundred miles south of Alachua county thus I am not eligible for the sliding scale rate.

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14 Oct 2010, 2:57 pm

WrongTime wrote:

Now I'm faced with a problem whether or not to tell my psychiatrist who is treating me for anxiety disorder and panic attacks. I'm scared if I tell them I will have to undergo more testing. In the past I've been treated for depression and anxiety. They never really tried to get to the bottom of things. I don't feel like taking more pills. But still I would love to be formally diagnosed so people won't treat me as sick any longer.

Can anyone relate to this?

Yes, there is a whole industry ready to take your money for endless tests without delivering any meaningful results that modify your life, and they are best left alone.

I would suggest the Baron-Cohen tests (AQ etc, which are recognised scientific tests) that are linked in the sticky at the top of the forum. Print the test results off and take them to your psychiatrist, then have a discussion about how they relate to you and whether it is worth assessing you further.

An assessment for an ASD would mean examining your childhood and possibly interviewing a parent, sibling or other adult who recalls your childhood.

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14 Oct 2010, 5:22 pm

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You scored "Low Average" or "Low" or "Very Low" on one of the tests. This indicates that you may have a cognitive problem. You can take the test again if you like. If you continue to score poorly or are concerned about cognitive symptoms, you should consult with your physician. (...)

Verbal Memory..... Very Low (1 percentile)
Executive function.....Average (70 percentile)

The low "verbal memory" does not surprise me, because my short-term memory is very weak - in my work, If I am doing something and I am interrupted, even if only for some seconds, usually after the interruption I start doing a totally unrelated task, forgetting totally what I was doing seconds ago (even today a thing like that happened).

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