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Mdyar
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31 Oct 2010, 7:31 pm

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I've studied Psychology and Sociology since I was eight years old trying to figure that out. From what I can understand from observation and study alone, these people seem overly emotional, illogical people who are easily manipulated through those emotions and are fiercely egotistic regarding those flaws (denying that they have flaws like that). They have similar patterns to special interests, but they pick things that seem inane and let their emotions run these interests.

From what I know of NTs I'm glad I'm not one. Its nice to have me and my Aspie husband and two Aspie kids, who are highly intelligent, to be a part of my life instead of the confusing and strange NTs.


Yes, Yes.

But there are divergences from the mainstream, as I've known some intellectuals ( the gifted) that don't favor the form of things, either.
Interestingly some of these( albeit many) don't do so well at theory of mind when this comes to directly understanding most folks(n/t). They are a different breed altogether, as they understand this from an abstract P.O.V. - e.g. not via unconsciously.



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31 Oct 2010, 7:36 pm

I have semantic pragmantic languge impairment.

is that the same as Aspergers?



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31 Oct 2010, 7:41 pm

Jamesy wrote:
I have semantic pragmantic languge impairment.

is that the same as Aspergers?


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For a while some language therapists maintained there was still an important difference between children with semantic pragmatic disorder and children who were truly autistic. They believed the autistic features seen in children with semantic pragmatic disorder were only a result of their difficulty with language.

However, further research has shown that there is probably a single underlying cognitive impairment which produces both the autistic features and the semantic pragmatic disorder . The fact that children with semantic pragmatic disorder have problems understanding the meaning and significance of events, as well the meaning and significance of speech, seems to bear this out.

Eventually the idea of an autistic continuum was used to explain the situation. All the children on the continuum have semantic pragmatic difficulties, but the degree of their other autistic impairments can be severe or moderate or mild. This parallels the autistic continuum relating Asperger syndrome, where all the children have a marked social impairment but those with Asperger syndrome have only a relatively mild and subtle language impairment.


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31 Oct 2010, 7:51 pm

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I heard being an NT is like the feeling you get when your drunk?

No, when I get drunk I feel drunk and thats different from how I feel when I'm not drunk.
If you could define in your opinion how it feels for you to be Autistic I could probably answer your question Jamesy - by contrast. It's probably better if you were able to describe a particular aspect of how you think or how you experience things rather than..everything?

I think a lot of us autists associate being spontaneous and smooth-talking with being NT as we are so lacking in that department compared to the average NT. NTs also have an appearance of being more relaxed in most situations. They seem to be able to just "float on" in life (as the lyrics to that Modest Mouse song goes) while I'm constantly agonizing and always feeling on edge (and this is not by choice).



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31 Oct 2010, 7:56 pm

Could I have semantic pragmantic combinded with AS?



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31 Oct 2010, 7:59 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Could I have semantic pragmantic combinded with AS?


Where do you think you are, McAspie's? :)

Poor attempt at humour.



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31 Oct 2010, 8:14 pm

I find this question impossible to answer, but I understand the premise for asking.

I, too, would love to leave my body and enter into my son's mind to experience the world through him, experience his thoughts, perceptions and feelings, since we can't meet through words. Or, at least we can meet through them to a degree.

I would say, being an NT is like being a walking ear, because I filter most of what I perceive through words, but that's only describing me, not all NT's.

I wish everyone wouldn't provide definitions of callous, closed-minded, emotionally immature, rude, unconscious people to describe ALL NT's. But.... I think that I can understand the tendency to demonize the people as a whole who did the torturing as children.

I really think that in the end, though, we're all human and we have so much in common. That if we turn inward and understand ourselves then we can understand everyone else, too, no matter what the neurology may be. Neurology is inconsequential compared to self-awareness and level of consciousness, but we don't live in a culture that promotes that type of understanding.


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31 Oct 2010, 8:24 pm

Being an NT wouldn't feel different to me, I'll practically be the same apart from some of my awkwardness, mood swings and frustrations.


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31 Oct 2010, 8:24 pm

tenzinsmom wrote:
I find this question impossible to answer, but I understand the premise for asking.
I wish everyone wouldn't provide definitions of callous, closed-minded, emotionally immature, rude, unconscious people to describe ALL NT's. But.... I think that I can understand the tendency to demonize the people as a whole who did the torturing as children.


I agree with you, I have met tons of NTs that aren't like that, I have met SOME NTs liked that. but most of them are NOT like that.