03 Oct 2020, 12:10 am
03 Oct 2020, 12:58 am
Jamesy wrote:
Do you think NT's that are psychopaths sociopaths target aspies and make thier lives a living hell?
Yes, to your necropost.
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03 Oct 2020, 12:59 am
FranzOren wrote:
You are not an NT if you have Antisocial Personality Disorder
Based on what I have researched.
NTs can be sociopaths.
Psychopaths cannot be NTs.
03 Oct 2020, 1:05 am
Darkmysticdream wrote:
Sociopaths tend to prey upon the vulnerable. Because AS folks tend to have less social skills and don't possess the natural social intuition that allows them to see many "red flags" of unhealthy social interaction, they tend to be easy pickings for sociopaths. Also sociopaths tend to pick prey based off of posture and stance, just like predators in the wild picking off the sick or weak. AS folks tend to have awkward gaits, tend to not make eye contact, and rarely, if ever swagger.
The lack of ego/machismo leads to a noted difference in the physical stance of a person. A sociopath notes a person who is vulnerable through those differences. I have studied this quite extensively and it has been shown that sociopaths can read through posture and body language if a person is an easy target and even if the person has been abused before. I know this to be true as I can identify sociopaths very quickly as well after having encountered more than a few in my life and each of them have been able to tell that I was previously abused.
I do not think that it is specifically AS folks that sociopaths look for (although I'm sure someone has had a hard-on for seeking out AS folks in that capacity) but the general behavior and postures presented by AS folks is similar to submissive personalities, abuse victims, people with depression or personality disorders, and other vulnerable people that make easy prey. Usually the most effective sociopath will get an in-road to the person with compassion first, sharing their own stories of abuse, hardship, of being misunderstood, and will then begin to twist the individual to their desires. Since many AS folks are desperate for companionship, this is a very easy way to take advantage of us.
The lack of ego/machismo leads to a noted difference in the physical stance of a person. A sociopath notes a person who is vulnerable through those differences. I have studied this quite extensively and it has been shown that sociopaths can read through posture and body language if a person is an easy target and even if the person has been abused before. I know this to be true as I can identify sociopaths very quickly as well after having encountered more than a few in my life and each of them have been able to tell that I was previously abused.
I do not think that it is specifically AS folks that sociopaths look for (although I'm sure someone has had a hard-on for seeking out AS folks in that capacity) but the general behavior and postures presented by AS folks is similar to submissive personalities, abuse victims, people with depression or personality disorders, and other vulnerable people that make easy prey. Usually the most effective sociopath will get an in-road to the person with compassion first, sharing their own stories of abuse, hardship, of being misunderstood, and will then begin to twist the individual to their desires. Since many AS folks are desperate for companionship, this is a very easy way to take advantage of us.
Yup.
Where are you now, my lovely? <sigh>
03 Oct 2020, 1:16 am
Pepe wrote:
Darkmysticdream wrote:
Sociopaths tend to prey upon the vulnerable. Because AS folks tend to have less social skills and don't possess the natural social intuition that allows them to see many "red flags" of unhealthy social interaction, they tend to be easy pickings for sociopaths. Also sociopaths tend to pick prey based off of posture and stance, just like predators in the wild picking off the sick or weak. AS folks tend to have awkward gaits, tend to not make eye contact, and rarely, if ever swagger.
The lack of ego/machismo leads to a noted difference in the physical stance of a person. A sociopath notes a person who is vulnerable through those differences. I have studied this quite extensively and it has been shown that sociopaths can read through posture and body language if a person is an easy target and even if the person has been abused before. I know this to be true as I can identify sociopaths very quickly as well after having encountered more than a few in my life and each of them have been able to tell that I was previously abused.
I do not think that it is specifically AS folks that sociopaths look for (although I'm sure someone has had a hard-on for seeking out AS folks in that capacity) but the general behavior and postures presented by AS folks is similar to submissive personalities, abuse victims, people with depression or personality disorders, and other vulnerable people that make easy prey. Usually the most effective sociopath will get an in-road to the person with compassion first, sharing their own stories of abuse, hardship, of being misunderstood, and will then begin to twist the individual to their desires. Since many AS folks are desperate for companionship, this is a very easy way to take advantage of us.
The lack of ego/machismo leads to a noted difference in the physical stance of a person. A sociopath notes a person who is vulnerable through those differences. I have studied this quite extensively and it has been shown that sociopaths can read through posture and body language if a person is an easy target and even if the person has been abused before. I know this to be true as I can identify sociopaths very quickly as well after having encountered more than a few in my life and each of them have been able to tell that I was previously abused.
I do not think that it is specifically AS folks that sociopaths look for (although I'm sure someone has had a hard-on for seeking out AS folks in that capacity) but the general behavior and postures presented by AS folks is similar to submissive personalities, abuse victims, people with depression or personality disorders, and other vulnerable people that make easy prey. Usually the most effective sociopath will get an in-road to the person with compassion first, sharing their own stories of abuse, hardship, of being misunderstood, and will then begin to twist the individual to their desires. Since many AS folks are desperate for companionship, this is a very easy way to take advantage of us.
Yup.
Where are you now, my lovely? <sigh>
Yeah I was thinking the same? haven't seen her in years
03 Oct 2020, 1:19 am
03 Oct 2020, 1:30 am
03 Oct 2020, 3:36 am
cyberdad wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Can imagine anNeurotpyical that not only hates an autistic person but is also a psychopath? It would be horrible for the aspie because he feels like the bird of prey and pyschopaths more often than not are the predators.
I realise the OP wrote this 10 years ago but its relevant to note that NT psychopaths probably hate a wide range of people, not just autistic people.
But they prefer targetting vulnerable people, the heroes. <sarcasm>
And those on the spectrum tend to be vulnerable.
I don't know the fascination.
Most people prefer a challenge.
I guess it is like a cat playing with a mouse. <shrug>
Odd.
03 Oct 2020, 3:39 am
League_Girl wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Can imagine anNeurotpyical that not only hates an autistic person but is also a psychopath? It would be horrible for the aspie because he feels like the bird of prey and pyschopaths more often than not are the predators.
I realise the OP wrote this 10 years ago but its relevant to note that NT psychopaths probably hate a wide range of people, not just autistic people.
The OP is still around too so this bump was fine.
Yes and no.
The person I wanted to talk to isn't here any more.
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03 Oct 2020, 5:08 am
03 Oct 2020, 9:45 pm
03 Oct 2020, 10:17 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
I have known NT psychopaths intimately. I have never met a single person in my entire life who hates autistics, dislikes autistics though none of them including myself really understand autistics, how they experience life or sense it. =
TBF what pepe said makes sense. NT psychopaths have a tendency to target the vulnerable as they are an easy target.
This means autistic people are an easy target.
But yeah, I never met anyone walking around who only hates autistic people or spends their day thinking where they can find an autistic person to bully.
I am not sure Teach's post was directed at me, specifically.
Could the "Redhead" clarify, please?
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04 Oct 2020, 3:28 am
Unfortunately Narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths and the garden paths do target the vunerable. Maybe trolls and scammers search out autistics for exploitation but I don't think there is a hate trend.
Not directed at skunky 
04 Oct 2020, 7:13 am
04 Oct 2020, 7:22 am
04 Oct 2020, 7:36 am
Teach51 wrote:
Unfortunately Narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths and the garden paths do target the vunerable. Maybe trolls and scammers search out autistics for exploitation but I don't think there is a hate trend.
Not directed at skunky :wink:
Not directed at skunky :wink:
That's what I thought.
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