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14 Nov 2010, 10:21 pm

There is no right or wrong answer. There's a website that you might want to post your list on, and it's called Autism Speaks. They speak for you, but they don't speak for me. They would be happy to have you. You are the perfect candidate to add fule to their fire.


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14 Nov 2010, 10:39 pm

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not ONE correct response so far cmon keep it comin ppl


That is becuase the premise in the original post is wrong. AS does not neccessarily lead to those things. It may in some case but not in others. As someone already pointed out ADHD is also a brain wiring from birth. So it can't come from AS. It comes at the same time as AS.

OCD is also considered to have a nuerological basis. It has been seen in brain scans. Certain parts of the brain have less white matter then those people without OCD. So aspergers doesn't neccessarily lead to OCD either. You can be born with OCD. I was born with OCD. OCD and AS are comorbid in me. I was born with both, one didn't lead to the other.

Schizophrenia is also a brain wiring. It doesn't come from AS. January Schofield was diagnosed schizophrenic at six years old. That was the diagnosis, her behavior was from birth. You can be born schizophrenic.

Now my non-OCD anxiety issues on the other hand. Those are probably a by product of my AS and OCD.



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14 Nov 2010, 10:55 pm

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That is becuase the premise in the original post is wrong. AS does not neccessarily lead to those things. It may in some case but not in others.


Right. There are links between AS and other things, making them comorbids, but plenty of people have AS and none of those things.. and then plenty of people with those disorders do not have AS.

Still, I don't see why people are so offended by this topic. If they don't have anything besides AS, then fine. No need to get angry that other people do. There is an entire forum on this board for people who have comorbids.

I personally have Seasonal Affective Disorder, which I do believe is related to my heightened senses, and an eating disorder that stems from my obsession with routines/dieting. Also, social anxiety because of my social awkwardness. I'm not saying AS caused those things, or that I wouldn't still have them if I didn't have AS, but when you look at the links between things it can help you understand and recover from them. It is the other things I want to recover from, not AS itself.



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14 Nov 2010, 11:09 pm

Corp900 wrote:
not ONE correct response so far cmon keep it comin ppl
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I wish I knew what we were meant to say and why there is is a right and wrong answer to a topic that is open for opinion. Yay for feeding the flame. :roll:



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15 Nov 2010, 5:37 am

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It's also linked to eating disorders and seasonal depression, which can be caused by heightened senses (smell, light changes).


Yep, that's what I won in the AS lottery.



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15 Nov 2010, 5:58 am

I also have an eating disorder. I see food, I eat it. My favourite food is, just about everything.


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15 Nov 2010, 6:03 am

Corp900 wrote:
schizoid


With respect to the idea that aspergers can lead to schizoidism, I can believe that to a extent. However, as a member of a schizoid forum, there are many kind of responses which indicates that they can understand how socializing works and they're a natural loner or someone who don't gain pleasure understanding that nothing seems to matter since their adolescent years and children years. The forum itself does have quite some threads which confirms the schizoid behavior is actually noticeable at a younger age than 18 (Some in their mid-teen and some in their childhood, but one of them completely gave up on people at 22 although most do at their mid-teen, but the reason why the symptom reaches at adulthood peak is due to the fact that they don't have to be forced into a social environment like school and they pretty much have the privilege to be left more time to be alone. Plenty of them have suffered being forced to go into a forced social environment. It's possible to have both though. The one reason you support this idea is that there has been schizoids who have been diagnosed as aspergers although they have to be switched because their behavior is actually more into the schizoid line since the time of being under 18.



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15 Nov 2010, 7:33 am

actully mine is a order not disorder


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15 Nov 2010, 7:36 am

Oh come on, Corp. Don't you fret! :)


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15 Nov 2010, 7:47 am

I don't understand this person either but assume it's related to Autism (would kind of make sense :))

I've heard of gateway drugs but not gateway psychological conditions before. But having said this my social anxiety, depression and other problems were caused by not knowing that I had autism before. I beat myself up and worked myself to death also causing cfs and ending up in hospital with stomach problems related to stress. So I suppose it is true in a way.



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15 Nov 2010, 8:08 am

I can't think of anything else to add to your list Corp900. The good news for you though is that you shouldn't have to worry about any of those comorbids since you are planning on being NT in 4 years.


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15 Nov 2010, 8:18 am

I once had Pure Obsessive Disorder in middle school before it was even an official diagnosis. It went away over time on its own. I also have very mild Tourette's which was always mild but used to be more of a problem. I figured out the tics were being triggered by subconsciously identified patterns, so in my case my Tourette's was a form of OCD where I was unaware of the underlying obsessions causing the compulsions.

EDIT: Maybe Asperger's is what happens when you take a lot of "learning disabilities" and throw them all together and at their extreme expression it causes autism. If someone just has one learning disability they still have plenty of avenues for developing social skills. It seems like I have ADHD, Auditory Processing Disorder, prosopagnosia, NVLD, and executive functioning disorder all together at the same time. Top that off with anxiety issues(but I've figured that didn't come from genetics, that came from the pressures of society from being "different").

You often notice slightly elevated IQs for specific learning disabilities and then with Asperger's often even higher IQs. When thinking about learning disabilities they seem to reflect deficiencies not in logic but in instinctual processes that aid learning or dysfunction in sensory information. ADHD-attention instinct. APD-Distorted hearing Prosopagnosia-Instinctual memorization and recognition of faces NVLD-Instinctual recognition of nonverbal signals. Executive Functioning-Following through with a plan without having to think about it. Any deficit in an instinct logically requires the brain to exert more effort thinking about things other people don't, which will "exercise" it.

Not that we don't have instincts. I have some very weird instincts. For example, squirrels just immediately catch my attention. From what I've read it seems we tend to have odd instincts NTs don't have. I suspect if most people had Asperger's we'd have good social skills as a result of social cues evolving around our set of instincts and the NTs would have Asperger's/Autism. Teaching would also be oriented towards our brain type so the NTs would get the learning disabilities. I also suspect NTs would be the systemizers.

The NT brain would be examined and studied and they'd be pointing to all the connections that "don't happen" in NT brains and all that's "missing".



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15 Nov 2010, 8:30 am

Asperger's caused the disorder in my sock drawer.



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15 Nov 2010, 9:20 am

MotherKnowsBest wrote:
Asperger's caused the disorder in my sock drawer.


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15 Nov 2010, 9:43 am

j0sh wrote:
MotherKnowsBest wrote:
Asperger's caused the disorder in my sock drawer.


:lmao:


Please explain. :oops:



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15 Nov 2010, 1:51 pm

Oh, it's the Obvious Troll. Hi Obvious Troll!

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