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20 Nov 2010, 1:43 am

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I used to think that my depression was caused by a chemical imbalance, but now I think it was stress-induced by high school and the lack of sleep it caused me to have. I haven't been in high school since April or May of last year, I've been following my naturally delayed sleep schedule (which, of course, I could not do while in school), and I haven't been on my depression medication since about June. So far, I've only been feeling sad when I have reason to be and when I'm on my cycle. I wonder how I would have handled high school if there had been a schedule that better suited my circadian rhythm? It might not have even been the social situations that made me depressed. Maybe all I needed was sleep. Anyway, I'm not on any meds!



I also thought I had a chemical imbalance too because I was diagnosed with depression in 6th grade. But I think it was environmental because I don't have it anymore. In fact I have probably had it off and on and the only reason why I thought I had it was because I was told so. Now I am the judge of myself and I decide what I have and don't have.


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20 Nov 2010, 1:46 am

Tried them but they didn't work. Too anxiety addled for stimulants and can't stand the initial side effects to anti-depressants. I don't want to be condescending to anyone who wants to try or uses meds.



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20 Nov 2010, 1:55 am

I only take meds when I need them which is rarely. If I was prescribed medical marijuana, however...



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20 Nov 2010, 1:55 am

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I would not recommend some individuals with bi-polar disorder or schizophrenia go off their medication, however.


Agreed. I've known people who have. Bad idea.
The only meds I take are for unrelated things. I don't feel the need for any more. But the question of whether or not you need to worry about taking them is probably not something that can be answered here, since no one knows your exact medical history.



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20 Nov 2010, 2:17 am

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Not anymore; I'm on meds.

I think a lot of people are ridiculous when it comes to this topic. I don't think it is ever as black and white as psychiatric medication or herbal/diet/exercise alternatives. I wish such things were treated as medical treatments and not something you back up black-and-whitely or in the case of pharmaceuticals, advertise as if you were selling candy.

So true. But that's an autistic trait, isn't it? If meds don't work for them or they don't have a condition in which meds could really benefit them then of course they are going to act like this.
For the record no amount of dieting, spending ridiculous money on herbal therapies or exercise will decrease my ADHD symptoms. When I do eat too much junk food I can feel my symptoms get worse but I eat really healthy and exercise.
My meds work for me. Even the SSRI's I was once on got rid of my depression.

Honestly people who are against medication, especially stimulants, are just as bad as the anti-vaccine crowd. Oh yeah, I said it!


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20 Nov 2010, 2:34 am

I don't take meds, although I really need to be on sleeping pills.


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20 Nov 2010, 4:25 am

I have been down the nasty med path before, but now totally med free.

I will never go near them again.


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20 Nov 2010, 4:27 am

Not any more.I was on antidepressants but They turned me into a zombie - I wasn't depressed but I couldn't really think or feel either . I've tried 3 different types over the years and they all had nasty side effects. If it's a matter of life and death I'll probably take the things again, but they are not something I want to take permanantly.

And no I'm not a scientologist :roll: That's a ridiculous thing to say. These are serious drugs with serious side effects. Read the pack already. Those are the problems they tell you about. I had quite a few that weren't listed. If they work for you OK, but they don't work for everyone. I got sick of my zombie possesion and I feel better without them.



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20 Nov 2010, 4:40 am

Haven't taken any proper meds in years.



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20 Nov 2010, 11:51 am

The psychiatrist had advised me to take Risperdal and Ritalin,but so far i refused.
I don.t know if that is a good decision or not,,but i am afraid that these pills alter my personality.
So i can.t judge for someone else,you have to take to decide for yourself
Maybe these pills make your life easier



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20 Nov 2010, 12:09 pm

I have found that medications rarely work the way they are intended with me or they don't work at all. I haven't been on anything for several years.



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20 Nov 2010, 12:13 pm

I have never taken meds for AS. The only medication I take is Coumadin for a blood clot and pulmonary embolism I had a few years ago. I am so far enjoying my life with AS and do not want to take any meds for it because I don't see any reason for me to do so.


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20 Nov 2010, 12:24 pm

Chronos wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Med free is the way to be.

Check you Harold Mandel's new book, The Deviant Psychiatric Mind Syndrome.


Actually that's not entirely true. There is this horrible three part chasm with psychology on one side, psychiatry in the middle, and neurology on the other side and psychiatry often gets caught in a tug of war between psychology and neurology, with many psychologist declaring psychiatric disorders to be illnesses that originate from the subconscious mind...or learned, and can thus be controlled through behavioral therapy,and many on the neurology side who believe all psychiatric illnesses can be medicated.

Well let me set things straight.
Some psychiatric disorders, though require some biological pre-disposition, are behavioral in origin and the most appropriate means of treatment is cognitive behavior type therapies, talk therapy, etc. These disorders include, but are not limited to, borderline personality disorder, many eating disorders, and so on.

Some psychiatric disorders have a predominant neurological basis and the best treatment method is frequently medication. This includes schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, Tourette Syndrome, OCD and so on.

Some disorders fall into the first category, and the sufferers can potentially benefit from medication (people with environmentally based, yet severe depression) and some disorders fall into the later category, and sufferers might benefit from behavioral therapy approaches (medication resistant OCD).

I was forced to take medication much of my life until I was a teenager and realized they couldn't make me take it, and my parents agree that I do much better without it, because my OCD is generally non-responsive to medication, however I did experience often severe side effects.

I would not recommend some individuals with bi-polar disorder or schizophrenia go off their medication, however.

That's rather a mischaracterization. Perhaps if we were to change your use of "neurological" to "neurochemical", this could be more useful, although still oversimplified.

Neurochemical disorders, such as depression, OCD, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder, are often amenable to medication, although any responsible psychologist is going to recommend talk therapy to go along with them - merely correcting a neurochemical imbalance does nothing to correct the patterns of thought laid down by years of dealing with the issue(s) before medication.

Neurological disorders, like autism, AS, Down's syndrome, or Williams syndrome, are not amenable to neurochemical modification, because the neurochemistry of the patient is not imbalanced. Rather, the actual neural structure of the patient differs from the norm, something which cannot be "corrected" at our current state of the art. (It will, almost inevitably, become possible one day; there is currently a debate, preparing for that day, over the question of whether such neurosurgery would be ethical, being as it would change the nature of the patient in fundamental ways.)

Simple psychiatric disorders, such as situational anxiety, situational depression, or neurosis, can be treated with talk therapy and its variants, without the need for medication. Sadly, some patients, overly influenced by advertising in magazines or on TV, will demand medications they think they need, and some doctors lack the will to deny them, so you wind up with people on SSRIs and Ritalin who don't need it; they are harmed by the induced chemical imbalance, and this is often used by those who oppose medication as "case studies" of why "meds are bad".

And of course some maladies overlay one another. For instance, the talk therapy used to treat my roommate's PTSD (related to his two tours in Iraq) is complicated by his underlying ADD (which he denies). and the probability of minor brain injury caused by some of the explosions he lived through, which leads to severe migraine headaches, irritability, and increased anxiety.


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20 Nov 2010, 12:26 pm

I'm not on medication though I've been told by two therapists that I'd benefit from it. They're probably right. Meh. I can't keep up the habit of picking up prescriptions, anyway. Too much trouble.



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20 Nov 2010, 12:31 pm

Anyone here not take meds? - I was raised in an environment which was essentially med-free/anti-med. At one time I was even opposed (intellectually) to something like aspirin. My whole life I had very subtle, unexplained difficulties sustaining attention and then discovered that a FDA approved medicine, a central nervous system stimulant - alerting agent, actually worked for me a little (not a cure) to temporarily improve the ability to voluntarily pay attention a little. That experience changed my attitude toward meds. The right med does work for some. Also, I became extremely aware that meds are not interchangeable, that is, when a med works for a person, switching to another med often does not work. That's because each med has a different chemical structure (like numbers to a combination lock). If one expects a different set of numbers to open a combination lock than the numbers needed they will find the lock will not open. My personal view today is that finding the right medicine is often a crap shoot. A few persons are lucky to find the right med/a med which works a little; many are not. In some cases the right approach is to be med-free. That's my understanding.



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20 Nov 2010, 12:55 pm

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