People telling you you're a sociopath?

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30 Nov 2010, 4:39 pm

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I think some sociopaths are misdiagnosed as aspergers.


Just like me. I wonder, how can the government explain to the people why its paying a sociopath benefits?


You aren't a sociopath so get that out of your head. Sociopaths often are antisocial but they can manipulate and be very charming socially. You're also easily affected by what other people say and do, sociopaths don't have "feelings" like that.

Also sociopaths don't have trouble getting women.



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30 Nov 2010, 10:37 pm

The only time I've ever been called a sociopath is by a sociopath who was trying to harm me while acting like I was the one harming them. :roll:


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01 Dec 2010, 12:36 am

I had a boss that told me several times "wow, you're methodical and calculated." :scratch:



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01 Dec 2010, 1:06 am

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You fell victim to popular myth about sociopathy. A true sociopath does not feel remorse, nor has any belief in right and wrong other than what suits their own needs and desires.

Does your friend know you are autistic?


I often wonder about morality. I determined that I have ethics, but in the way of morals I'm curiously void. Like, I don't think about things in terms of "right" and "wrong," simply whether it's appropriate or not.
As for my friend, no one seems to have a word for me, I'm just different. Hence she thinks I'm a sociopath. Like many people here, I tend to have empathy for animals and plants rather than people, but it's still empathy, right?
I don't know. Maybe there are some similarities between aspies and sociopaths, though I've noticed one apparently common difference - ego. Many aspies tend to have low self-esteem, whereas as mentioned before sociopaths tend to be narcissistic and elitist. With what you guys have said, sociopaths would not tend to be socially clumsy, due to their tendency to manipulate and play and part - which I guess some aspies can do to a certain extent, the "NT mask" mentioned before, or what I call "talking face." Interesting.



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01 Dec 2010, 2:21 am

I think that it is a poor choice of a word. Sociopath is defined as: a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath

Not exactly a compliment. You just have a classic aspie traits: the inability to express emotion or understand social situations.


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01 Dec 2010, 3:39 am

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I've never had that happen to me. I've had the opposite happen. I've been told tat I'm too sensitive. I don't know which of those two things are worse.

The sociopath is far worse. It's too bad they're also more likely to reproduce.



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01 Dec 2010, 3:57 am

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Sociopathy is similar to ASD in the sense that neither have much empathy for others. But sociopaths don't stim and have the weird repetitive behaviors if they don't have ASD imo. Some colleges SPECIFICALLY look for grad school candidates with HIGH sociopathy because they're more likely to pay back student loans. Sociopathy has it's benefits, and people with ASD score higher on these tests because they don't have much if any empathy of others (distractions).


That's an unfortunate myth. Some clinical "professionals" were lead to the conclusion that autistic children lacked empathy because they focus more readily on what interests them rather than on what other people are thinking. The issue is lack of social focus, not an innate lack of empathy.



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01 Dec 2010, 6:49 am

Personally, I don't have a lack of empathy. I have a LOT of empathy.

The problem for me is interaction with the outside world.

* How to read people good enough that you actually understand that they are in pain or in need of empathy.

* Or the problem of how to SHOW your empathy and when it is appropriate.

Hint: It's always appropriate to show empathy.
Showing emotions and being a "softy" does not mean you're a wimp (unless you are one), but on the contrary can show that you are a mature and whole person.


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01 Dec 2010, 10:39 am

I have always been able to hurt people who have done bad things to me with out remorse but I have felt bad for week or so for accidently hurting someones feelings for saying something I should not have.

If given an oppertunity to push a button to make someone who was causing me trouble to be taken away to be taken care of in a human manner I would wear that button out from pressing it so much. So many jerks so little time.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:48 am

IvyMike wrote:
Some colleges SPECIFICALLY look for grad school candidates with HIGH sociopathy because they're more likely to pay back student loans.


But why, what does it have to do with anything?



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01 Dec 2010, 4:15 pm

How interesting as, I can recall how someone in High School stated that I was sociopathic since, I tended not to have any friends and tended to keep to myself as well, acting different from all the other cookie-cutter classmates..



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01 Dec 2010, 7:21 pm

I knew a couple people in high school who were probably sociopathic. They tended to gravitate to me for some reason, perhaps because I appeared to be more like them than "normal" people. I shared their disdain for social norms and high school cliques. I wasn't the least bit interested in being popular or parties or the usual teenager stuff. The biggest difference was that they seemed disinterested in the world beyond themselves, except to the extent they could get things they wanted from it. I recognized that for them, there were no rules but self-gratification, which was quite different from myself, but I reasoned that it was better to be nice to scary people so I usually humored them. I also learned to imitate their mannerisms so people would be afraid of me. I found this useful for making bullies keep a respectful distance, and just getting people to leave me alone in general.



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01 Dec 2010, 8:18 pm

I've never been called a sociopath (to my face, anyway...), but I do find that I often identify strongly with Dexter Morgan. That can't be good... :twisted:


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01 Dec 2010, 11:12 pm

since 1 in 25 people may be a sociopath... who is to say that a person diagnosed as AS is not actually a sociopath, as there are similarities? and it is much more common than AS.

charisma is not a requirement. some sociopaths are actually as*holes and b*****s and never make friends. they just have no care or remorse for how their actions affect other people, therefore they are more likely to be manipulative than an average person.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:39 pm

Typically, sociopaths are great at blending in. AS people are not. Sociopaths have good social skills. They can manipulate people.

I'm friends with a sociopath. I know what he is, so it isn't a big deal to me. People like that sure are fun to hang out with-I've known my fair share of them. But after the party is over...the fun begins LOL



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02 Dec 2010, 1:49 am

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How interesting as, I can recall how someone in High School stated that I was sociopathic since, I tended not to have any friends and tended to keep to myself as well, acting different from all the other cookie-cutter classmates..

Sociopaths aren't merely unfriendly or aloof. Most are actively devious people who lack a conscience. The world is like a video game to them, as people mean nothing and only exist to be toyed with. They also have an active disdain and hatred for the downtrodden, the weak, and those they feal are inferior.