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09 Jul 2005, 1:03 pm

Neant, have you ever tried Social Skills Training?? I know they offer it at Judevine. That's what they told me I should do.

Say! We could do it together!! ! --(if I ever got the money to pay for it).


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09 Jul 2005, 4:58 pm

I don't know what you guys obsess over, but for me it's always been games. when I was young D&D was one of my main social outlets. later on it was tabletop wargames. then Video arcades. then D&D again......and some wargames.......

A few years ago I was lucky enough to find a large German Boardgaming club in the New England area. I try to go twice a month for a few hours and I always feel great afterwards. I don't really talk with anyone outside of game night, but I always feel welcome when I go.

If you can find a group like this in your local area I really recomend giving it a shot.



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09 Jul 2005, 5:05 pm

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I agree that it's a good idea to find a club or group of people that has similar interests to you. However, transport can be something of a problem for some of us + making that first approach to join up.


Transportation issues are my problem. I can drive, but I can't see well enough to drive after dark.

I keep getting invited to join a group that explores my interests, and the kids (14, 11, 7) are even welcome, but it would mean driving home for half an hour in the dark. I can't do it, and there is no one in my area who is involved who might give me/us a ride.



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09 Jul 2005, 5:08 pm

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Often it entails facing up against your pet peeves, or worst fears, even. This would include the small talk. If you can't stand their small talk, what makes you think they'll be able to stand your obsessions? :) Ahhh it does work both ways...


I learned looooong ago not to even mention my obsessions to anyone else. I've heard "You are weird" far too often.



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09 Jul 2005, 9:00 pm

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I know exactly what you mean. For me it's the middle stage of a relationship that is hard...or impossible...to sucessfully navigate. I can do "acqaintance" with general chit-chat,etc...although I really have no idea what I'm doing I'm told I fake it fairly well, and once I'm friends with someone they already know my weirdnesses and are OK with them...but it's going from "acquaintance" to "friend" that I have the most trouble with. Grrrr!!


I have the same problem, gah, it sucks :(



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09 Jul 2005, 9:52 pm

Seriously, it makes it 100 times easier to interact with normal people by abusing robitussin. I mean, you should practice its use judiciously, carefully. But it remove all the anxiety and reluctance to interact with normal people when you take even a little of it.


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09 Jul 2005, 10:30 pm

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Seriously, it makes it 100 times easier to interact with normal people by abusing robitussin. I mean, you should practice its use judiciously, carefully. But it remove all the anxiety and reluctance to interact with normal people when you take even a little of it.


Robitussin? The cough medicine???



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10 Jul 2005, 12:00 am

What about just a good shot of Scotch???


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10 Jul 2005, 12:58 am

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My ADHD psychologist once said something that has helped me a lot: "Don't stay long where you're not wanted!"


Hmm. Too bad it took me forever to understand this concept - and unfortunately, it took me a long time to come to terms with the fact that a lot of people ("NTs" especially) just don't seem to want me around, period. Paranoid? Perhaps, but I may never really know... :( :roll:


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10 Jul 2005, 1:42 am

SinSister, sorry to see you've had such a hard time. It seems to me that society doesn't mind people talking about some obsessions such as sport, how much they've drunk and similar, but they are not so accepting of others.

I don't seem to have so much trouble making friends, as keeping them. They tend to just remain as acquaintances.


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10 Jul 2005, 3:30 am

I'm lucky, in a twisted sort of way, that I've never really wanted friends and always have had this undercurrent of contempt for society as a whole. Even from the time school kids were bullying me, my wish wasn't for companionship but for folks to just leave me the heck alone. So I can honestly say they didn't want me and I didn't want them either. I know, I know, I'm being hateful, but that's how I've dealt with my relationship to the world without breaking down.......again.

I didn't have my first true friends until my late 20s and I must emphasize the word "true" as they accepted my true self, not some superficial personality I put on to be more sociable. One of them, my ex-boyfriend, had aspie traits too and our bond was beyond anything I've experienced in this world. Eventually, life had separate paths for us, however, but the time we spent together was valuable in my understanding of people.

My indifference toward humanity has turned into detached appreciation. I'm not actively seeking friends as I don't feel many people would accept my quirks but I try to interact with them with compassion. I just hope NTs can, in time, learn to relate to us the same way.



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10 Jul 2005, 3:35 am

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Seriously, it makes it 100 times easier to interact with normal people by abusing robitussin. I mean, you should practice its use judiciously, carefully. But it remove all the anxiety and reluctance to interact with normal people when you take even a little of it.


What is that? Tell me more please.



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10 Jul 2005, 3:50 am

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Nomaken wrote:
Seriously, it makes it 100 times easier to interact with normal people by abusing robitussin. I mean, you should practice its use judiciously, carefully. But it remove all the anxiety and reluctance to interact with normal people when you take even a little of it.


What is that? Tell me more please.


It's a brand of cough medicine sold in the United States. It contains some alcohol in the ingredients so drinking enough would have the effect of say, having several cocktails. :wink:



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10 Jul 2005, 4:36 am

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It's a brand of cough medicine sold in the United States. It contains some alcohol in the ingredients so drinking enough would have the effect of say, having several cocktails. :wink:

Actually, the alcohol content is neglegible. The ingredient that supresses coughing is dextromethorphan hydrobromide (DXM HBr), an opiate that behaves as a dissociative anesthetic and depressant at normal doses and becomes hallucinogenic at high doses.

Taking cough medicine for "social" purposes is dangerous because people often ignore the other ingredients in the cough medicine, some of which can cause serious harm at relatively low doses. DXM is also potentially fatal in some circumstances, such as when taken while using prescription MAO inhibitors (antidepressants) or when followed by intense physical activity (raves).


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10 Jul 2005, 5:41 am

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The ingredient that supresses coughing is dextromethorphan hydrobromide (DXM HBr), an opiate that behaves as a dissociative anesthetic and depressant at normal doses and becomes hallucinogenic at high doses.


You mean to tell me I can take a dose of cough medicine right before being drug tested and come up positive for opiates just like with Hydrocodone and Vicodin? 8O I better remind myself to keep away from Robitussen until I'm officially employed.



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10 Jul 2005, 6:10 am

nirrti wrote:
It's a brand of cough medicine sold in the United States. It contains some alcohol in the ingredients so drinking enough would have the effect of say, having several cocktails. :wink:


so what's the point then? Why not just drink several cocktails?