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Morgana
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09 Jan 2011, 6:14 pm

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It is a phrase that amuses me because it gets used in science press so much. But really, science stories in the news do a lot of silly things:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-l ... 0/sep/24/1


This was hysterical! Thanks for posting that, I had a laugh. Actually, the reason being that it´s SO spot on!- this is exactly how these articles are set up. :lmao:


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09 Jan 2011, 6:14 pm

Sallamandrina wrote:
I'm probably old and old fashioned - I can't seem to see the difference between most "science press" and the usual tabloid drivel, so I just avoid it :wink:


They keep writing stories about my favorite subjects. I can't avoid them.



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09 Jan 2011, 7:14 pm

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Eh. Some people with AS/autism have similar features and may have a few traits in common. It doesn't mean everyone is like that.

For the record I am:

Short.
Look younger than I actually am.
Have an odd shaped cranium.
Have odd posture.
Can go for days without washing.
I don't wear makeup or spend much time making myself look presentable.
Physically you can tell I'm autistic by my actions and blank eyed stare.

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
So, there're no such things as laws of physics...

Not on a quantum level.
There could be, even if there's only one law that states there aren't any laws :lol: Humans haven't gotten it figured out yet but when we do - we will be - gods.



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09 Jan 2011, 9:00 pm

[quote="Mindslave"]Well, scientific proof isn't absolute proof. You can always tell who the scientists aren't by quotes like that. "Studies show that..." "There is scientific proof that..." Science has theories, not facts. There are no scientific facts, although some things are universally regarded as true, and if they weren't, then among other things, this board wouldn't even exist.

>>> The fundamental unbreakable law of science, is that laws were meant to be broken and revised. That it adapts and changes with each curious poke into the fabric cloth that is what is.

In the case of Lorenzo's oil, it was generally believed that an accumulation of fatty amnio acids (if I remember correctly), was the cause of blockage of necessary nourishment to the brain or such. And this being the case, all fat was banned from the diet from people with ADL. Until it was careful scrutiny on behalf of the parents to discover a cure for thier child (Lorenzo Odone however has died recently, but he was granted cognitive function). May he enjoy a heavenly existance of membership in a celesrial intellegistia.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:32 pm

90% Of aspies are Einstiens. 10% of aspies are slow, sweet and sensitive people who are of average intelligence.


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09 Jan 2011, 10:53 pm

I get pretty tired of the stereotypes and assumptions about women with AS here. I can read more bigoted crap about women with AS here in one week then everywhere else, combined, for the entire 12 years I've been dx'd. :roll:



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09 Jan 2011, 11:01 pm

I always think people with AS are supposed to have special intrests and crave solidute. I used to think they were insanley agressive because I was but than I probably have soemthing in addition to AS. Basicaly I expected other people with AS to be clones of myself and I was really disapointed when I discovered they weren't.


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09 Jan 2011, 11:13 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
So, there're no such things as laws of physics...

Not on a quantum level.


Heh heh. More like suggestions than laws at the quantum level, eh?


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10 Jan 2011, 1:58 am

Mercurial wrote:
I get pretty tired of the stereotypes and assumptions about women with AS here. I can read more bigoted crap about women with AS here in one week then everywhere else, combined, for the entire 12 years I've been dx'd. :roll:
Yes! It's a shame, because I think there could be constructive discussions about the specific gender-related challenges that each gender faces.



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10 Jan 2011, 1:04 pm

babybuggy32 wrote:
ive seen on this board people suggesting the weirdest things about aspergers.... and some have even suggested that there is a physical way to detect autism like facial features or something...


As one of the guilty parties on this particular issue, I would like to clarify. It is not a stereotype about people with Asperger's, but a set of statistically significant findings. A finding can be minute, clinically insignificant and yet statistically significant - for instance the ratio of index finger length to ring finger length is as variable in people with Asperger's as it is with anyone else, but has a slightly lower mean. You could not look at the two fingers and say "there's someone with Asperger's", and many people with Asperger's have an index:ring finger ratio that is greater than the non-Asperger's mean. The other features are equally insignificant in any one individual, but statistically significant with a large enough sample of people with Asperger's. You could not recognize Asperger's by observing the features, and in many cases could not observe the feature without a measurement device like a pair of calipers.

Some people say they can spot Asperger's, but I suspect that they are using a combination of chance and behavioural clues.

Apart from the obvious personal interest ("Wow, my look at my Aspie clinodactyly!"), some features relate to biological factors, like androgen exposure, that might have some role in the development of Asperger's. It is possible that some combination of features will be so consistent that they will provide an objective, non-behavioural method of diagnosis. On a slight tangent, MRI brain scans seem to be heading towards providing an alternative source of data for diagnosis.



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10 Jan 2011, 5:10 pm

bee33 wrote:
Yes! It's a shame, because I think there could be constructive discussions about the specific gender-related challenges that each gender faces.


I totally agree.


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10 Jan 2011, 8:02 pm

Verdandi wrote:
I like "Evidence suggests..."
Yep. A real chestnut. :lol:
Best one I heard was "Some scientists are thought to believe ..."
That's just so wrong in so many ways! :roll:


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11 Jan 2011, 6:34 am

babybuggy32 wrote:
ive seen on this board people suggesting the weirdest things about aspergers.... one poster said there was scientific proof that aspies don't drink or smoke. and some have even suggested that there is a physical way to detect autism like facial features or something... some have even suggested that aspies are less attractive and clean. where is this stuff coming from!? as far as i know none of any of this is a fact by any means but why do some of us assume that all aspies are like themselves?


I've held some of those views in the past as i've known other Aspies who are like that however I've seen other Aspies of late who don't match those critia.

The way I see things is that it can often be put down to upbringing and how it affects one.

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11 Jan 2011, 9:24 am

All aspies are super rational logicians.


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11 Jan 2011, 9:25 am

pensieve wrote:
Eh. Some people with AS/autism have similar features and may have a few traits in common. It doesn't mean everyone is like that.

For the record I am:

Short.
Look younger than I actually am.
Have an odd shaped cranium.
Have odd posture.
Can go for days without washing.
I don't wear makeup or spend much time making myself look presentable.
Physically you can tell I'm autistic by my actions and blank eyed stare.

I regard myself as THE atypical AS case when it comes to these things. I'm probably as un-geeky in appearance as they come.
To compare...
- I am tall, and weigh over 100kg (200+ pounds) without being fat.
- I shave my head, as I am severely balding and hav since early 20-ish.
- I have a distinct "bouncer-look".
- My walk and posture is normal for my size.
- I don't know if I look younger. I suck at telling age.
- I am considered good looking, and have had my share of women before I got married.
- I smoke.
- I drink.
- I do not do drugs.
- I am never sick.
- I am not clumsy at all. On the contrary, I have been tested to have a very good balance.
If there is to be anything "typical" to point me out with, it would have to be a fairly monotenous voice, problems placing my hands anywhere, and I just can not seem to get the eye-contact-thing going in a non-weird way.



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11 Jan 2011, 9:29 am

Moog wrote

All aspies are super rational logicians

That's not a bad one in my book, however you will get some Aspies (myself included at times) who are very rash and impulsive.

I surpose there are some Aspies who are like that, but i've only met about one or two who really were like that all/most of the time.

Most of my fellow Aspies I've met are a mix of both the rash emotionalst and the logical 'Mr Spock' type.

Goodbye Till Next Time

(sorry about the cut and paste)