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19 Jan 2011, 3:51 pm

I was actually thinking of gaming forums (tabletop mostly, some videogames) with my last post.

Lurking does help a lot to get a sense of the forum community before diving in. That was a lesson that took me a few years to learn. Fortunately, it was before forums came to be (so instead I managed to screw up on usenet over and over again).

It strikes me as strange that anyone would dispute the idea that a paladin could choose not to kill, or find the use of non-lethal means to be more evil than killing. I like pushing the envelope on paladin ethics and morality, though.



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19 Jan 2011, 9:14 pm

It had more to do with the fact that it was poison and normally used by drow (i.e., your character has to buy it from them) than with the fact that it's non-lethal, actually. But yes, I thought it was odd too. Nowadays I've entirely dumped the "poison is evil" idea and just judge things by whether it would be evil if you used something other than poison to do the same thing. It's still dishonorable to use poison rather than go into a fair fight, but non-lethal poisons are entirely within character for a paladin acting as a town sheriff or guardian, as they often do. Arresting a criminal is very different from an honor duel, after all...


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19 Jan 2011, 9:34 pm

It can be hard, especially since the line between disagreement and trolling gets fuzzy.



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19 Jan 2011, 9:38 pm

Well that's a new low.

I hope the word doesn't catch onto other sites. People really are ignorant if they associate a couple trolls saying they have AS to thinking everyone that trolls has autism, or that it's a suitable name for a troll.

I have naively become a troll because so many of my friends were but I saw how bad my behaviour was and stopped.


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19 Jan 2011, 9:50 pm

I haven't seen any trolls using autism as an excuse or anything but it woudln't surprise me if some were or there were some misunderstandings on other sites that i haven't seen. I've been accused of trolling on other sites a lot I think partly because my AS issues caused misunderstandings. This terminology seems to be a recent thing; the post I've seen are fairly recent. Sense lots of you guys haven't seen that; I'm guessing it's not that common rite now


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19 Jan 2011, 9:56 pm

Maybe it's an accidental troll thing. Still it's cruel to ban someone just because they don't understand the forum rules or keep saying the wrong things.
It's not a deliberate attempt to troll.
And banning someone based on a neurological disorder is just wrong.

I've been permanently banned from the IGN forums for swearing. Though I wasn't swearing at anybody but more for emphasis.


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19 Jan 2011, 10:18 pm

pensieve wrote:
Maybe it's an accidental troll thing. Still it's cruel to ban someone just because they don't understand the forum rules or keep saying the wrong things.
It's not a deliberate attempt to troll.
And banning someone based on a neurological disorder is just wrong.

I've been permanently banned from the IGN forums for swearing. Though I wasn't swearing at anybody but more for emphasis.

It's NOT an accidental thing on the sites I've seen with it. Like one user kept bumping old threads by replying with only the word bump


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19 Jan 2011, 10:21 pm

nick007 wrote:
pensieve wrote:
Maybe it's an accidental troll thing. Still it's cruel to ban someone just because they don't understand the forum rules or keep saying the wrong things.
It's not a deliberate attempt to troll.
And banning someone based on a neurological disorder is just wrong.

I've been permanently banned from the IGN forums for swearing. Though I wasn't swearing at anybody but more for emphasis.

It's NOT an accidental thing on the sites I've seen with it. Like one user kept bumping old threads by replying with only the word bump

Echolalia?

OK, so many we have a few bad apples. Or they really really liked those threads.


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19 Jan 2011, 11:38 pm

Well I'm not going to lie I do like to troll sometimes.....not on a site like this, as its for support and all that. But sometimes reactions can be entertaining. And there are times when I have been serious and people take it as trolling. I don't really worry about it.



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19 Jan 2011, 11:47 pm

I haven't trolled in a year now. I got bored when I tried some real trolling. I've decided it's not my forte and it's not in me to do it. It takes lot of thinking and work to do it and I just get bored with it after like a day or two. I don't know how people keep on doing it and never get bored. But I have noticed when they try and be a regular person on the forum, they slip back into their trolling so it occurred to me maybe it's not in their nature to be a real person so it takes a lot of willpower for them to not troll and lot of energy and they just can't keep it up so they slip back. It's the opposite for them.


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