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MrXxx
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20 Jan 2011, 5:38 pm

By the way,

Needhelp, as far as your son talking to himself...

I've always done that, and still do at fifty years old.

A huge part of the concern for parents when it comes to their kids talking to themselves is how others will perceive it. While I do think to some extent it's a valid concern, the bigger concern should be how HE feels about it. If it doesn't bother him, there's really not too much to be concerned about.

I used to be concerned about people seeing or hearing me talking to myself. About fifteen years ago I got a job spending a lot of time in store coolers, stocking them. I'd talk to myself quite a bit while working. As if there really were someone else there talking back. One day I was going on a mile a minute and looked up to see one of our regular customers standing in front of the cooler with the door open, staring at me with a really weird look on her face. Obviously, she'd been listening for a bit.

Without missing a beat, I looked right at her and said, "Hey! No fair eavesdropping on my private party!"

A few minutes later, I waited on her at the register and she asked me, "Do you always talk to yourself like that in the coolers?"

"No," I said, "I talk to myself everywhere else too!"

The guy I was working with nodded at her and said, "Yup. He really does," and she shrugged, then answered, "I guess we all do now and then."

Everybody who knows me knows I do it. it doesn't bother me at all anymore.

It's really only a problem if the people I imagine I'm talking to start talking back. :wink: But that doesn't happen.

If your son knows it's just imagination, and isn't hearing voices talking back to him, it's really not a big deal. Most of us do talk to ourselves at least some of the time. Some more than others. Sometimes I think we worry to much about what other people think of it. it's one of those things a lot of people do, but a lot aren't willing to admit.

You may want to talk to him about how others might perceive it. He may not care a lick. But if he does care, he might tone it down a bit, or at least look around and take notice whether anyone might be listening. In the end, it's pretty much up to him whether or not to let it bother him. The thing is though, there's really nothing at all "wrong" with it. I would just avoid talking to him about it in a way that might make him feel there is something wrong with it, and by proxy, wrong with him.

Think of it as a neat little quirk. I don't know if you liked the guy or not, but Andy Kaufman talked to himself all the time. He ended up making a great living entertaining people.


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20 Jan 2011, 7:16 pm

I am 41 and still talk to myself a lot. It's one way that I actually think. If I couldn't talk to myself, it'd make it difficult for me to assemble my thoughts coherently.

Well, at least I could still use computers and write, but I mean there may be some level of executive function tied up in audible self talk, for some people at least.



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20 Jan 2011, 7:20 pm

47 and talk to myself ALL THE TIME. I rehearsh mostly for upcoming important conversations, lectures, classes, etc.. But sometimes I do it just to hear myself talk. Much like my Miniature Schnauzer. :D :D :D (I swear he doesn't shut up some days)

If you are gonna have a kid with AS, YOU have to start being okay with being different and get him to be okay with it too.



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21 Jan 2011, 6:09 am

Yes, I talk to myself alot. I also use vocabulary that others find hard to understand, which annoys them sometimes. I am trying to do less of it, and "tone down" the conversations with myself.



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21 Jan 2011, 6:41 am

It's hard to strike a balance between inhibiting the kid and leaving him wide open to being ostracised. It might be best to leave it be, but when he's old enough to understand, warn him that some people may think him strange for doing it in front of them. Trouble is, he might get ostracised before he's old enough to know. Though any school that allows that kind of exclusion of young children, isn't doing a very good job.

One of the reasons I like solitude is that I can talk to myself without worrying about what anybody thinks. I do a lot of rehearsing and I often discuss things with myself as if I were two separate people with opposing views. It keeps my brain in the habit of talking with reasonably good intonation (I'm a mumbler by nature), and it helps me focus on my own thoughts, and clarify them. I also talk my own back legs off worse than I do to anybody else, and I view it as an opportunity to learn how to shorten my comments and avoid detours, though I haven't made much progress there yet. I used to feel that I should stop it, so that I'd be normal and wouldn't be risking being overheard, but not any more. There's a lady here at work who I "caught" talking to herself......I pretended I hadn't noticed, and began talking to her in a friendly way, in the hope of reassuring her that I don't think she's strange. She's always struck me as one of the best people we've got, because she's always very personable and jolly.



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21 Jan 2011, 7:25 am

MrXxx wrote:
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I think MrXXX is right on. My son does this, and I mostly go into his world (mostly shooting storm troopers, so at least I'm familiar) and play with him. I do tell him that not everyone knows star wars and they may not know what to say or do, so I try to play star wars, but then try to change it a little so he can learn to improvise, including totally changing subjects if it's a good day. Then we take turns. When in his world, I try to remind him, gently, that other kids may not want to play like that. I don't make it about him, it's about others and how they play, not how he plays. This way he may be more willing to work harder, and it helps give language he may need to fit in better in a more novel, verbal situation. I try to tell him that it's not him that has an issue, it's that kids are different and most kids don't play in that manner and they don't know what to do, just like he doesn't know what to do when they play games he doesn't know. I think sometimes my son will go into his world because he doesn't fit in with what they are doing, so I try to give him as many tools as I can to take with him (especially language since that is his primary difficulty). I also promote board games, and other structured activities with his friends, and this seems to be the only way he can really play in a reciprical way where he feels more like a peer. There are clear defined rules that he and everyone else can follow, and he feels more connected with these type of activities and this helps a lot.

I also never leave him alone to play. I am always there to facilitate any problem solutions and play if I need to.

I do want to note that my son however, as much as he LOVES to play with other kids, is happy in his own little star wars, role playing world with himself. If your son isn't unhappy, trying to encourage something that is uncomfortable for you but not necessarily for him may be more difficult to work through. I don't know your son, but I thought I'd mention that. That may be a factor in how challenging this issue is. He has to want it.


MommyJones, I admire you for your ability to get into your son's world. As simple as it may be to offer that advice, I have to admit it's not easy to live by it. I have AS too, and my middle son, who is deeply AS, is enamored with computer games. It's all he ever seems to talk about most of the time. But because of my own AS, and my deep interest in music, I find it nearly impossible to follow my own advice on this, and "get into his world."

But he has the same problem when I talk about music. We both tend to just nod and say, "Uh-huh," but I do at least accept that he's into what he's into. That's fine with me, and at least he does know that.


You're right...it is not easy at all, and can be very frustrating for me who is naturally very flexible. Trust me, play scenario's are not all that long in length. I can't push him, but I can help him. I think my advantage with him is that he wants friends so badly and he wants to know what to do. He takes my advice well, but again, I don't make it about him. I am very careful not to make him feel that there is anything wrong with him because there isn't. This is why I said at the end of my post that he has to want it. My son wants it and that is why I think I can bring him over when I can but it is quite hard for him.