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21 Jan 2011, 12:02 am

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Autism simply cannot be a person it's a label that someone applied to you, me and others.

Autism, the word, is not who I am. Autism, the state of being, is who I am.

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21 Jan 2011, 12:04 am

It's the reason why everyone is always upset with me no matter what I do.

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21 Jan 2011, 12:06 am

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I think it wouldn't matter so much if the world didn't think it was a tragedy to be autistic. You treasure something much more when other people devalue it.

Well said. It gives me strength to know that I am so different and why even if people always try to beat me down and conform to their ways.

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I have something in common with Craig Nicholls. His band are about to release a new album and Craig said that he has been obsessed with them so they wouldn't got got this far if it weren't for his autism. The Vines are pretty damn famous. Also, I love reading interviews with him because of the way he talks.

But just knowing that I'm different and why is great. I can take all the issues I have and develop a way to get more control over my life. If I didn't know I was autistic I would not make to-do lists or stay in a routine which helps me get anything done. I would still be freaking out at why any slight change freaks me out. I'd be thinking I was going crazy every time I was sensory overloaded or had a shutdown. I wouldn't be into science because I never thought I could understand it. I'd think there was something seriously wrong with me and my lack of social skills. By the way I've developed better social skills. I still struggle but at least I know why I struggle.
Even when I found out I had ADHD I tried to change for the better. Without knowing I have these conditions basically my life would be a mess and people would be calling me stupid and lazy and I'd be thinking it too.

Conformity seems to be mutual. Yes I'd agree knowing about the label helps. It's ones personal philosophy and belief that entails the label defining ones total self. I believe this was fashioned for awareness reasons and is just about to run it's course. No one should be forced to conform to a label as an identifier to self or to not identify as a pathological concept.

However for human dignity reasons I believe it is respectful to equally enjoy these choices after one is asked out of politeness in a short time to come. Unlike abortion group agenda's and anti-cure agenda's removing the label has nothing to do with autism as a definition of self being separate as if it could be like they say but simply not conforming to a pathological concept in identity and even marketing agenda's of special interests.

Huh? I'm not conforming to be anything. I'm just myself. I was talking about people complaining that I should just be more like them.

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21 Jan 2011, 12:06 am

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ci wrote:

Autism simply cannot be a person it's a label that someone applied to you, me and others.

Autism, the word, is not who I am. Autism, the state of being, is who I am.

You said same difference. You are that you are as I am that I am then some snobbish, intellectual and pathological folk decided we needed a label but couldn't just say help them "individuals" with this, that and maybe this and or that. The label is an alienable conceptology that simply entails 3rd party intrusion in my and others organic ways of being. However the label does serve as a adaptation mechanism psychosocially but more importantly it's not entirely necessary especially universally.

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21 Jan 2011, 12:10 am

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Huh? I'm not conforming to be anything. I'm just myself. I was talking about people complaining that I should just be more like them.

Understand what you can in context to what I said and be proud to be yourself. IF someone got a problem and wants you to be more like them in the functional sense then you technically are covered under the Universal Human Rights laws.

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21 Jan 2011, 12:11 am

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It's the reason why everyone is always upset with me no matter what I do.

Give me an example but as it is you started this conversation with calling those who raised you stupid and dumb.

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21 Jan 2011, 2:13 am

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Funny. It seems to me that labels tend to be rather important.

It's not the label, but the stigma attached to it that causes people to think negatively about autistics.

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21 Jan 2011, 2:51 am

Apparently in my area people with AS or autism or talking about it is very low. I have never heard the kind of labeling or discrimiation that you are talking about. I mean I guess I was picked on a ton because of the way I was I understand that point, but as an adult I haven't been picked on as much as taken advantage of for my nature.

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21 Jan 2011, 2:56 am

Because without autistic people the world would be incredebly boring.

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21 Jan 2011, 3:37 am

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The negatives are the reason for the diagnoses and to receive help. It's not like being black, gay or religious. However because of the abortion issue and it's politics, the need to show disability is in need of accommodation and help and the true reality of autism the dignity argument is superseded. My original label is my name, Nathan Young and certainly not a pathological concept that become so political it's useless in exception for the subjective individual assessment in needs.

Of the thousands aware of my advocacy and hundreds I've interacted with who approached me about my autism advocacy that has nothing to do with negative or positives no one has ever treated me like they had to use a dung stick to keep me away. Quite the opposite I want to walk away and have my own space. People just don't hate you or me because of autism. I've even had a meet and greet announced for a month on 5 or so radio stations every hour or more in which 600 - 700 people came to my table with parent volunteers from a local non-profit parent autism group. It just is not that bad as you expect and others expect in the mainstream.

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21 Jan 2011, 3:39 am

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Because without autistic people the world would be incredebly boring.

Clearly political. No one will ever rid the world of people that are considered the autism people. There is this overwhelming idea that everyone hates us, everyone wants us gone and that no one like me will exist in years to come. I think this for the most part is just false.

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21 Jan 2011, 4:44 am

Because it has a major effect on my life, and because it's a very interesting disorder.

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21 Jan 2011, 5:07 am

If someone is handed an instruction manual that both explains and predicts their behavior patterns, they'd be a fool not to read it.

It's not, "know thyself, unless it makes you uncomfortable."

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21 Jan 2011, 5:29 am

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Because I'm in the same class as *Albert Einstien
*Bill Gates
*Elvis Presley

You asked.

Provide scientific evidence that each one of the * individuals have autism or claim to have autism. I know a good self-esteem is important but on a day to day basis do you think about autism and if so why?

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I'm here to speak my mind, not to play games.

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21 Jan 2011, 5:39 am

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ci wrote:

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Because I'm in the same class as *Albert Einstien
*Bill Gates
*Elvis Presley

You asked.

I'm here to speak my mind, not to play games.

Ok so if it's not your move in this grand social game then will you please reply. I understand the desire for a good self-esteem. I think you need to think about how autism is a disability and that somewhere in the middle of the extremes in autism politics truth is found subjectively to every individual. Autism is a diverse group of people and disability is reality. I know many people with autism in person and I don't see Bill Gates, Einstein or anyone quite as functional as Donna Williams whom I talked to and was negative about my project but later apologized. Hell I was surprised and so was a professional working with me. Temple is such a wonderful lady and balanced. I think she means well. Try reading about Temple but I don't have myself patients to read a whole book. I like her attitude and rebellion and think I am kind of like her in well only some ways.

Speak your mind, others speak theres and you know I got a big mouth blapping all sorts of thoughts here.

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21 Jan 2011, 6:18 am

ci wrote:

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Because without autistic people the world would be incredebly boring.

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Huh? I never said any of those things. Don't put words in my mouth. I don't believe anyone is trying to get rid of us or that the world hates us.

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