Does it bother you if people say ADHD doesn't exist?

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Does it bother you if people say ADHD doesn't exist?
yes 38%  38%  [ 24 ]
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Aeturnus
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07 Jul 2006, 3:44 am

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If you hook an EEG to a person head with ADHD you will note it has alot
of theta waves. Do the same test with a non-ADHD person and you will see
alot of beta waves. Give the person with ADHD a stimulant and their brains
produce more beta waves. Theta waves are a daydreaming like state(hence people
with ADHD tend to be more creative). Beta waves are hyperfocus on problem
solving/getting a job done(hence people with adhd get less work done without
a stimulant).


I wonder what AS brainwaves look like. I've heard it can coexist with ADHD quite commonly, though there are a lot of controversy over this, because many of the symptoms end up overlapping, so it is hard to distinguish one from the other, and in this case, a few docs believe that AS and HFA or PDDs override an ADHD diagnosis.

I think I have heard that Einstein was said to have above-average Theta wave activity, but I could be wrong ... So, was he ADHD, AS or both?

I have heard this before, when I was younger, and I was wondering why they just didn't figure that one out when I had an EEG test. Instead, they were more interested in that I had subclinical seizures, but told my parents that it wasn't extremely serious, but it may produce hyperactivity and impulsivity. So, do ADHD people have subclinical seizures as well, because the hyperactivity and impulsivity are a primary component. They're diagnostic criteria for ADHD but also appear widely in people with AS, but maybe to a lesser degree than a person with just ADHD.

Not on the brainwave subject, but there's a book on this whole autism / ADHD controversy called "The Autism-ADHD connection" or something like that.

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07 Jul 2006, 1:02 pm

Einstein - at present, still undecided.

From this thread and what I have read, I would have to say both.

I mean, at school his teachers used to say:

.He wouldn't concetrate
.about his lack of understanding of social stuff
.Other tendencies, some related to AS, some ADHD
(obviously, this is sugarcoated........A LOT!)



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08 Jul 2006, 12:44 pm

I actually took someone on about this on a non-ASD related forum a few months ago. There's another girl that posts there who has really severe ADHD and I'd say she has several Aspie tendencies as well.

In any case, some folk were being really bad on her and misinterpreting what she was saying so I tried to explain it better and one person came in and said that it was all in the mind. So I thwapped her one :P Digitally speaking, of course ;)

Said person is now forever blacklisted by me mentally. Whether the condition is specifically to the guidelines of the diagnoses or not is not relevant. That it exists is for sure. I mean, it's like saying AS doesn't exist...where would we all be then? :S

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08 Jul 2006, 6:35 pm

I honestly dont notice when people say this!



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09 Jul 2006, 11:18 am

It's a small minority of people who say that ADHD dosen't exist thankfully.

The whole "ADHD dosen't exist thing" is more of a political thing than anything else, brought forth by people mainly on the far right who claim that ADHD is nothing more than an invention by lazy parents, teachers, et al, who want to do their jobs, and most important to the conspiracy theory, an excuse to get people on drugs so they can indoctrinated by liberalism.

If you think that sounds silly, I agree! But there are people who take this seriously.


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23 Jul 2006, 12:13 am

Aeturnus wrote:
I think I have heard that Einstein was said to have above-average Theta wave activity, but I could be wrong ... So, was he ADHD, AS or both?


Poor Einstein has been unofficially "diagnosed" post mortem with quite a few disabilities, including dyslexia, AS, and ADHD. I don't buy post mortem "diagnoses," though. And I don't think that these "diagnoses" really fit because in order for a person to be diagnosed, that disorder has to seriously disrupt functioning in life. Considering Einstein's great achievements and contributions to society, I don't think he had a disorder that impaired his life. If I were him, I would be very insulted that people with all these different disabilities were trying to claim him as their own. And yes, I have been officially diagnosed with AS.



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23 Jul 2006, 12:47 am

umbra wrote:
Aeturnus wrote:
I think I have heard that Einstein was said to have above-average Theta wave activity, but I could be wrong ... So, was he ADHD, AS or both?


Poor Einstein has been unofficially "diagnosed" post mortem with quite a few disabilities, including dyslexia, AS, and ADHD. I don't buy post mortem "diagnoses," though. And I don't think that these "diagnoses" really fit because in order for a person to be diagnosed, that disorder has to seriously disrupt functioning in life. Considering Einstein's great achievements and contributions to society, I don't think he had a disorder that impaired his life. If I were him, I would be very insulted that people with all these different disabilities were trying to claim him as their own. And yes, I have been officially diagnosed with AS.


Your right but in the case of Einstein we have his brain so in the future when
we have the genetic knowledge we will know. Myself I do not care.



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23 Jul 2006, 4:03 pm

I lived with a girl for two years who had ADHD - I'd like someone who doesn't believe it exists to try living with her for that long and still tell me it doesn't exist!



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23 Jul 2006, 4:47 pm

I believe that ADHD exists, but I'm not sure if I believe that 8.1% of the population has it. Yet 8.1% of the population is diagnosed with ADHD and the proportion of white boys from high achieving communities who are diagnosed is greater than in the general population. What do you all think about these stats? Do you really believe that the 8.1% of the population who has been diagnosed with ADHD has ADHD? And do you think that white boys from achievement oriented communities are truly more likely to have the neurological disorder of ADHD?



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23 Jul 2006, 5:33 pm

Uhhh. It don't bothuh me.