animal vs human non verbal communication

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anbuend
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09 Feb 2011, 5:22 pm

Chronos wrote:
Animals are easier to read because they don't lie.

If my cat is mad, he's going to either lash his tail, stomp around the house, or pee on something he knows he isn't supposed to.


I've seen animals try to lie before. Maybe not about basic emotions like that, but they can try to trick a person. But I do find cats easier to read. And it's not about it being simpler either. They have a whole lot of depth that most people can't even discern because it's communicated in unusual ways. They have very complex inner lives. But for whatever reason, cats are still easier for me. Maybe because I've been exposed to them since infancy.


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09 Feb 2011, 5:31 pm

Chronos wrote:
Animals are easier to read because they don't lie.

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Possums lie. The idiom "playing possum" comes from watching how possums (opossums) will fake being dead or almost dead from some horrible disease in order to dissuade predators from attacking them.



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10 Feb 2011, 2:32 am

hmm I have no idea why animals can be easier to understand then people sometimes.......I mean I certainly don't mind It certianly allowed me to have some positive social interaction when I was not getting it at school. I've had a cat since I was 7 and yes he is still alive and well after 14 years. But yeah he gets pissed when he has not seen me in a while, right now its not a big deal since I am living at my moms house currently...but yeah if I leave for a few days and come back he will ignore me for about a day. Also in the winter when its too cold or snowy for him to go outside he gets rather angry and will attack anyone who bothers him with claws and teeth. But yeah the way I see it communicating with cats, dogs or other animals is just different then communicating with humans......and easier because they are more straight forward then most people.



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11 Feb 2011, 6:08 pm

Verdandi wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
Animals don't have to hide who they are in order to eat and drink and survive. Humans do, and this has far reaching implications on how we act. It's not just as simple as humans lie, it's much much deeper than that. Lying by itself doesn't account for serial killers and nymphomaniacs.


Good point, mostly.

FWIW, "nymphomaniacs" hasn't been a real diagnosis for a long time, and how does it even fall near the same category as serial killer? Your choice of words makes no sense. It looks like you wanted harmful behaviors, but as far as those go, an obsession with sex is pretty benign as compared to, say, any violent crime ever.


It is the same category because they are both cases of addiction. They may be two different behaviors (although an addiction to creating life is similar to an addiction to ending life) but the point I was making isn't to compare the behaviors, it's to point out that this involuntary deception leads itself to addictive behaviors. We usually don't think of work as addictive, but people can be workaholics, or sex addicts, or shopping addicts, but not everyone that goes shopping becomes addicted to it. Animals don't get addicted to food, but humans sometimes do. Of course, the stresses that humans deal with are nothing like the stresses that animals deal with.

Something else I've noticed is that people put humans and animals into separate categories, as if humans aren't animals, or as if humans aren't a part of nature. Humans need food and water as much an animals do. Without plants, we die. Without the sun, we die. Without clean air, we die. Nobody is exempt from these rules, because these aren't rules, they are laws. Real laws have no exceptions. The only true laws are those in nature. The more withdrawn humans become from nature, the more we become psychotic and delusional.

I don't mean to sound like a hippie or anything, but there is a lot of truth in what I said.