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CrinklyCrustacean
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08 Apr 2011, 7:48 am

My boss was VERY warm and supportive. He found out through someone else, called me into a 1-to-1 meeting, explained he'd Googled it and got worried, and offered to do whatever he could to assist me. For him the happiness of his team is a matter of personal pride, so it took me about 10 minutes to convince him that I was happy and didn't need any help. :lol: I really liked him anyway, but he went up 100 points in my estimation for his approach that day.



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09 Apr 2011, 9:45 pm

Well, what do you do when you have a boss with a narcissistic personality...although I disclosed mine, and said that my "accommodation" is for me to take notes, which I need to revisit from time to time (due to short-term memory and processing speed issues), and for me to check my perceptions with people (e.g. "when you say X, do you really mean Y?") those should not be a problem BUT she obstructed that approach by saying that because the stakeholders we deal with in our company are our "customers" that I have to be able to read between the lines, because I am acting as a "salesperson" and I am representing her, and she is concerned with "looking good"...so I should not have to solicit perception checking (again, e.g. "I'm sensing you really mean this is what you're concerned about, is that right?" type of checks - it's the only way I'll 100% know) - she expects that I should just know. We had this conversation a few days ago, and I disclosed my Dx 3 mths ago. Plus she further nullified my accommodations strategy by saying that "time is money" and that I could save extra minutes by avoiding the clarifying of perceptions that I should already be picking up "naturally". The job posting never said that I had to act as a salesperson, even in an abstract way (constructive dismissal, anyone??)

That's all highly subjective though, that these abilities are needed for me to succeed in my job - I do systems/process analysis, which is mostly technical and documentary. I am being held to an unfair narcissistic standard. I often wonder, if my post was switched with a burn victim, a vastly obese person, or a gay person, she would probably also not want them representing her, even if they were honest, hardworking people with high IQ's. Also what if she had a staff member whose second language was not English, and might need to occasionally get stakeholders to repeat stuff - is she going to say that "time is money"...?

I'm in Canada - the human rights code says that "customer preference" is not an excuse to exclude the integration of otherwise marginal groups, and she purports to speak for those customers. I think, if a customer has a need to be fulfilled, they should clearly express it as it's in their best interests to do so - I should not have to read between the lines. The human rights code also prohibits harassment, and giving incessant criticism to someone with a medical condition that is only somewhat treatable, and not essential to my job, would probably fall under that banner. But I imagine it would be harder to prove than blunt force harassment, i.e. calling me "freak" or "rain man" or whatever slurs.

huntedman wrote:
Jayo wrote:
If your boss is not allowed to make such comments, is this stated anywhere in law (code, article number)?? I'd like to see that...

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I brought mine out as soon as it was given to me. My review went in for all the signatures before my dx and came back out after. When I got my review and my boss and I read the "areas for improvement" (or the reasons why you are being held back), they read straight out of the DSM.

1. Does not network appropriately for grade level (AKA socialize)
2. Does not abstract (too literal) and misses conversations sometimes
3. Sometimes fails to see the big picture (gets lost in details)

My boss said I was protected under the disabilities act and had HR remove all of these. These 3 things have plagued me my entire 20 + year career. Now I can work on things that I really can fix.

Your boss is neither allowed to make comments to you nor to suggest you to fix things that are a direct result of your dx.

My psychologist was ready to go to bat for me if I needed it. (I did not) You may explain some simple legal concepts to your boss as a next resort.


Her boss can say any of those comments, yet they cannot be cited as the reason you cannot advance or are terminated. This is detailed somewhere in US code title number 42 sections 12111-12117. 42-12112-b6 would probably be where this specific issue falls.

Although it probably would be very difficult to fight legally. There is a clause stating that if the criteria "is shown to be job-related for the position in question and is consistent with business necessity" they can still use it to judge your job performance.

if memory serves correct, kfisherx said elsewhere that she worked for a large corporation with allot of public exposure, which tend to be allot more careful around issues like this.



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09 Apr 2011, 10:58 pm

I work at Intel Corp and live in the US. Don't know about the laws in Canada.

That said even if I lived in the US and worked for a beotch like the one you work for.... I'd look for different work.



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09 Apr 2011, 11:16 pm

Jayo, your boss already doesn't like you. I recommend that you look for other work while simultaneously trying to perform well at your current job.

And do NOT let them know that you are looking for a job.

It sounds like explaining your situation only gave them a label to apply to their existing disdain for you.



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10 Apr 2011, 11:26 am

Well, that's pretty much a given that she doesn't like me - and it's also apparent that she doesn't like my kind.

I've already been looking, believe me, since a few months ago but not as intensive as I should...2 interviews, 1 rejection, 1 up in the air, 2 more interviews this month. I have family commitments with an infant daughter. And YES, I am not saying a word about my search elsewhere, there's no need for me to, and it would be tantamount to me saying that I'm a malcontent there - anyone with an ounce of street smarts would not say such a thing!

Well, the main benefit of disclosing means they can't claim ignorance and say "I didn't know" if it comes down to a complaint of harassment or discrimination (saying that in a holistic sense, for all readers of this thread to note).

Despite disclosing, I am still subject to covert mockery, like she will say that she doesn't understand something I've said or written in an email, yet when I show the email or relay the verbal comment to another party, he/she will say they understand perfectly - she is just being perverse - mocking my challenge with "reading between the lines" in an exaggerated sort of way which is harassment, but harder to prove than name-calling. I've saved those surly emails, though, which is fodder for later.

All things considered, I truly believe that the right to accommodate a large & growing number of people with Aspergers where there are "gaps" in perceptory faculties outweighs a narcissistic need of a few to be "represented" by someone in a way that shows finesse, smoothness, sales acumen etc. I didn't sign up for a sales or P.R. job or a hospitality industry post. It's about being subject to an unjust standard to perpetuate the exclusion of Aspergers from the mainstream.

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Jayo, your boss already doesn't like you. I recommend that you look for other work while simultaneously trying to perform well at your current job.

And do NOT let them know that you are looking for a job.

It sounds like explaining your situation only gave them a label to apply to their existing disdain for you.