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24 Feb 2011, 6:29 pm

Chronos wrote:
People with autism struggle to articulate themselves though the world is listening.
And people with AS articulate themselves well, though no one listens.


I take the AS part to mean that they can speak quite fluently but people aren't listening because they are usually talking about their interests?

I don't get the autism part. The world isn't listening. They are telling the autistic what they feel. Well some people are at least.

I'm HFA. I've been both silent and a motor mouth. However I do have speech issues, such as stuttering, saying the wrong words and failing to find the right words to say so I'm umming and arring a lot.


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24 Feb 2011, 6:50 pm

Picture the autistic child being grieved over by his loved ones as the Aspie stands there explaining it all.

Now that's really funny.



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24 Feb 2011, 6:56 pm

pensieve wrote:
Chronos wrote:
People with autism struggle to articulate themselves though the world is listening.
And people with AS articulate themselves well, though no one listens.


I take the AS part to mean that they can speak quite fluently but people aren't listening because they are usually talking about their interests?

I don't get the autism part. The world isn't listening. They are telling the autistic what they feel. Well some people are at least.

I'm HFA. I've been both silent and a motor mouth. However I do have speech issues, such as stuttering, saying the wrong words and failing to find the right words to say so I'm umming and arring a lot.


Second this. I'm leaning more towards calling myself HFA as well. I think the reason I supposedly fall under Asperger's is that I learned to talk the same age as normal kids? I'm not exactly sure, and I just woke up, so my mind is a bit foggy still, sorry. XD



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25 Feb 2011, 4:56 am

nostromo wrote:
jackbus01 wrote:
Gee, I should probably read more carefully.
Okay, I truly understand everything now! :)

It is amusing how this entire thread is full of nothing but people misunderstanding each other.
I wonder what chronos and nostromo are thinking?

I'm thinking I'm confused by some of the posts!
However LeeJosepho's first post, using imagery, beautifully encapsulates in one sentence what Chronos originally postulated.


See, I wasn't the only one who was confused! Do you understand now? :)
A lot did (does?) need explaining.



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25 Feb 2011, 5:07 am

patiz wrote:
Picture the autistic child being grieved over by his loved ones as the Aspie stands there explaining it all.

Now that's really funny.


No, it really wasn't because the "joke" had to be explained and 2 of the 3 people on the the thread didn't "get it". Jokes should be funny themselves, they shouldn't need a lot of explanations and exceptions to make people "get it". Also some people weren't sure if it was a joke to begin with.



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25 Feb 2011, 5:07 am

pensieve wrote:
Chronos wrote:
People with autism struggle to articulate themselves though the world is listening.
And people with AS articulate themselves well, though no one listens.


I take the AS part to mean that they can speak quite fluently but people aren't listening because they are usually talking about their interests?

Yep, if I take the example of my sons friend who talks about the same thing all the time people don't listen because it's not a conversation.
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I don't get the autism part. The world isn't listening. They are telling the autistic what they feel. Well some people are at least.

If I take the example of my NV son, he can't communicate very well as he doesn't (or can't) talk, so everyone we know is always looking at him and encouraging him to communicate, literally we are listening and hoping all the time.
At least thats what I thought Chronos meant.



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25 Feb 2011, 5:11 am

pensieve wrote:
Chronos wrote:
People with autism struggle to articulate themselves though the world is listening.
And people with AS articulate themselves well, though no one listens.


I take the AS part to mean that they can speak quite fluently but people aren't listening because they are usually talking about their interests?

I don't get the autism part. The world isn't listening. They are telling the autistic what they feel. Well some people are at least.

I'm HFA. I've been both silent and a motor mouth. However I do have speech issues, such as stuttering, saying the wrong words and failing to find the right words to say so I'm umming and arring a lot.


It's okay that you didn't get it. It was meant to be a joke. I didn't understand it to be a joke either. If you don't understand the "joke" with all the explanation, then it is probably best to forget about it. That's what I am going to do. I've said enough on this thread.



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01 Mar 2011, 7:12 pm

My apologies jackbus01, it reminded me of my mothers death and I went to view her in the coffin with my brothers and father and said I can't smell her because she dead, I'll go back to the house and have a cup of tea. My brothers who are both NT's thought my behaviour very funny and explained that it reminded them of Shakespeare's midsummer nights dream when a guy stands on a tree stump, he is wearing an asses head, drunk and talking in a loud voice about things only he can understand. It made me laugh. Sorry if I offended anyone.



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02 Mar 2011, 1:36 am

the only major difference of aspergers and kanners autism is aspergers has no speech delay. thats the only real difference in the current diagnostic criteria. some people with classic autism seem the same as someone with aspergers as adults. personally i didnt have speech delay but get told i speak incoherantly all the time.



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02 Mar 2011, 1:55 am

carltcwc wrote:
the only major difference of aspergers and kanners autism is aspergers has no speech delay. thats the only real difference in the current diagnostic criteria. some people with classic autism seem the same as someone with aspergers as adults. personally i didnt have speech delay but get told i speak incoherantly all the time.


Speech delay is one possible criteria for autistic disorder, but it is not a required criteria.