Horrifying portrayal of Aspie man in local paper

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03 Mar 2011, 9:35 pm

Someone should point out to the newspaper that most crimes are committed by neurotypicals, and ask why all neurotypicals are not locked up for the public good.


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03 Mar 2011, 9:36 pm

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Someone should point out to the newspaper that most crimes are committed by neurotypicals, and ask why all neurotypicals are not locked up for the public good.


:lol: +1


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03 Mar 2011, 9:41 pm

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I agree with having something else going on besides autism. It doesn't have to be an actual "mental disorder" though -- people like this can be this way because they're just not particularly nice or ethical people, without having something actually diagnosable about them.
Yes, I agree with that. There's no real indication that he has anything diagnosable other than AS; but he does seem to be a real jerk.

Having AS doesn't stop you from deciding to be a jerk. But it doesn't force you to decide to be a jerk, either.


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03 Mar 2011, 9:45 pm

theWanderer wrote:
Yensid wrote:
Someone should point out to the newspaper that most crimes are committed by neurotypicals, and ask why all neurotypicals are not locked up for the public good.


:lol: +1


+2!



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03 Mar 2011, 9:46 pm

the worst part for me is the implausability of ever holding people like this resposible for the consequences these statements can have on a lot of people.

im all for free press, but that doesnt mean people shouldnt be held accountable for what they say, in some cases they are, but its just the tip of the iceberg.

have someone written a letter to them?


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03 Mar 2011, 9:58 pm

I didn't really see a problem with the article itself. That guy sounds, well kind of like a douche, I mean ok yeah, I can understand some of it, but some of sounds really overbearing and um, kind of creepy. From some of what it's sounding like he's doing he's got serious control issues. People who file that much for courts (and I suspect I know what the kind of stuff it is) are usually obsessed with making everyone act the right way - their way. He sounds like a few people I've met, and it wasn't the normal AS/Autism thing with them, it was significantly more control issues and major acting out calculated revenge in real life when the slightest infraction was made, and continuing that revenge for years. Imagine the emotionally abusive boyfriend from hell, only he's not dating you, he's dating your entire neighborhood and he knows you've been cheating on him you lying b***h and now you must pay.

That guy in the comments though is off his rocker in a major way. Seriously? People like me are dangerous and need supervising? Well, I guess I am a danger to any zombie Nazis I come across. I have a long history of assaulting those with deadly weapons. I've killed virtually every zombie Nazi I met. :wink: I'm also very liable to make snarky remarks to people who talk down to me, which could be counted as dangerous to someone with such a small mind. They are prone to breaking when confronted with things that don't fit inside them. If left unsupervised I'm prone to mostly ignoring people unless they need help with something. Which is just awful. I even ignore their children and have no interest in being around them, especially if the children don't want me around. I'm truly a monster and must be stopped.



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03 Mar 2011, 10:14 pm

With a husband and four kids, I don't get enough alone time as it is. Now I have to be supervised? And I might not be allowed to play with paintball guns? Who do these people think they're going to turn to for the Zombie Apocalypse? Auties are the only ones who've taken time to thoroughly prepare. Some people don't think these things through.



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03 Mar 2011, 10:26 pm

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Talk about smashing your head through a wall..

check this incongruent site out

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Asperger's_syndrome :evil:


hah, that one is pretty funny.


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03 Mar 2011, 10:29 pm

Oodain wrote:
have someone written a letter to them?


I did.

Here's the address if anyone's interested:

[email protected]



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03 Mar 2011, 10:42 pm

Stalking is more common in aspies. Although the comment is absolutely terrible in regards to most of us, the person sort of has a point about this guy. If you get 37 restraining orders, you should really be supervised. It's commiting the same indeceny/crime 37 times.

I know a good handful of offensive nutters who claim to be aspies who need to be in lockdown, just given a free reign to treat people like sh*t.



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03 Mar 2011, 10:55 pm

What I wonder is why doesn't Mr Rogers go in his house, shut the door and ignore them? That's the reasonable response and it would keep him out of trouble. The guy is going out of his way to irritate these people when he should just be turning the other way and ignoring them. If he can't figure out that is what he needs to do, he needs some kind of something...I don't know if supervision is what he needs...counseling, maybe?



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03 Mar 2011, 11:18 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What I wonder is why doesn't Mr Rogers go in his house, shut the door and ignore them? That's the reasonable response and it would keep him out of trouble.


That's all it would take, in fact someone who appeared to have first-hand knowledge of the situation appealed to him in the comments to do just that.

Apparently he'd rather risk life in prison though :roll:



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03 Mar 2011, 11:46 pm

The thing is guys, the legal system seems to prefer NTs to aspies. That could be just be my perspective on it, but, it does to me.


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04 Mar 2011, 12:42 am

theWanderer wrote:
Second, even if he was a lot worse then he actually is described, he is one individual. If a blond woman commits murder, do people write articles or leave comments suggesting all blond women ought to be locked up?


Yes. And if the author of those comments are male, one could make the point that most violent crime is committed by men, but that does not mean that most men commit violent crime.

I suppose that article and the comments are a good reminder of how labels are viewed by the general public: us (the normal people) vs. them (the labeled people) -- who are 'other' and always dangerous.



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04 Mar 2011, 3:11 am

anbuend wrote:
theWanderer wrote:
Second, even if he was a lot worse then he actually is described, he is one individual. If a blond woman commits murder, do people write articles or leave comments suggesting all blond women ought to be locked up?


Exactly.

OTOH, if you're autistic, intellectually disabled, or mentally ill, and you do something wrong, then people will insist that everyone like you ought to be locked up. It's part of the whole mythology that supports us being locked away in the first place -- we're dangerous to have in the community, after all.

<sarcasm>Intellectually disabled men will rape their little sisters, don't you know? Mentally ill people (especially psychotic people) are all dangerously violent and could go off at any time and kill someone, too. People with Asperger's have no empathy and won't hesitate to get violent if you offend them, because they don't care who they hurt. And autistic people will just randomly be violent for no reason at all! And they can hurt little children, so you don't ever want to let them around little kids.</sarcasm>

Those are the excuses people use to keep us separated from the rest of society. Some of them are very old, and go back to the eugenics movement or further. Some of them are newer. But they're all equally destructive. I was denied housing once because the landlady in question had a 3-year-old son and when she heard I was autistic she told the person who was calling on my behalf that I might hurt her son. She knew nothing of me, only that I was autistic, and she'd probably seen Rain Man or something. >_<


On that topic, can everyone PLEASE stop using "psychotic" and "ax-crazy" interchangeably? The former means you hear voices or see things or are delusional or whatever. The latter means you're crazy AND kill people (or try to kill people). It makes about as much sense as using "ice cream" and "hot fudge sundae with crushed peanuts" interchangeably.


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04 Mar 2011, 3:19 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Stalking is more common in aspies. Although the comment is absolutely terrible in regards to most of us, the person sort of has a point about this guy. If you get 37 restraining orders, you should really be supervised. It's commiting the same indeceny/crime 37 times.

I know a good handful of offensive nutters who claim to be aspies who need to be in lockdown, just given a free reign to treat people like sh*t.


Agree with this. And it is sad that this guy gives aspies a bad name. Many people dont realise that they know a lot of aspies here and there in their lives already, and they think that this is an example of what an aspie is, so they get this wrong, bad impression.


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