Glee: Bashing Special Needs Kids

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19 Mar 2011, 4:12 pm

doeintheheadlights wrote:

I don't watch the show, so I guess I don't know enough about the characters to make an accurate judgement about whether or not that specific character's comments on special needs kids is appropriate or not.

However...I think that you need to take more into consideration other than the fact that that character is a villain. For example, if that character makes those jokes or comments and it's meant to get a laugh out of the audience at the expense of special needs kids, that's not appropriate regardless of whether or not the character saying it is the "villain". And that quote from the Psychology Today article-

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I took the liberty of highlighting some Special Ed classes for you. Maybe you can find some recruits there because I don't think anybody else is going to want to swim over to your... island of misfit toys.

That sounds a lot like it was meant to be something that the viewers would get a kick out of at the expense of those who attend special education classes. Honestly, my sister (who happens to watch Glee) makes cracks like that every now and then about being in "special ed", as do many of her friends. I think that it's still pretty socially acceptable to do so, and because of that I just don't think that saying stuff like that on the show is right, even if it's the "villain" who says it.

Another explanation could be this revolt against politically correct media. There's a trend toward that right now. People are wanting to tune into shows that aren't PC, so this show could have been created to satisfy that niche. Maybe they are purposefully trying to be as un PC as they can get away with to satisfy a demographic and gain an audience and a following.

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19 Mar 2011, 4:37 pm

Keeping in mind that the concept of "politically correct" is a backlash against the idea that everyone deserves to be treated with respect.

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19 Mar 2011, 4:51 pm

Verdandi wrote:

Keeping in mind that the concept of "politically correct" is a backlash against the idea that everyone deserves to be treated with respect.

You have a good point. What would be "politically correct" media? If politically correct media is no racy ads that degrade a certain population, no encouraging drugs, ect. (using a story to teach the consequences doesn't count), no saying that bullying is okay, then it's not so against the idea of everyone being treated with respect. If "politically correct" had an alternative definition (e.g. this is the ONLY accepted behavior and we have no tolerance for difference, ect.), then not so much.

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19 Mar 2011, 4:54 pm

It wouldn't be a bad thing if she made fewer insults. But if she stops insulting just one group (those w/ disabilities) it would take away from the possibility of viewing her as treating everyone equally (equally like crap that is). Strangely enough, I viewed her treatment of her sister and the one cheerleader as possibly the only things that end up humanizing the character.

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19 Mar 2011, 5:02 pm

Janissy wrote:

Sue Sylvester, villain, also bashes the gay character, and this is tolerated (by viewers, not the other characters) because she's the villain.

I was under the impression Glee was all about gay characters and aimed at a gay audience.

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19 Mar 2011, 5:05 pm

Sue Sylevester is the evil queen of bullies, she says things that are so inappropriate and shocking that the way the other characters react is usually : *blank stare*...."yeah anyway.. " she can't be argued against. She despises niceness,how do you reason that out of someone...
She IS a villain, not a real life villain of course. A real fantasy villain. To be honest she cracks me up. I just love the casual way she can come up with 30 inappropriate concepts in the same sentence and feel it's totally justified and fine.
Can't help but laugh.

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19 Mar 2011, 5:12 pm

tomboywriter101 wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

Keeping in mind that the concept of "politically correct" is a backlash against the idea that everyone deserves to be treated with respect.

Politically correct media is what you see on CNN, trying to be unoffensive by not making derrogatory comments or jokes about a segment of the population, based on race, gender, ethnic group, disability, appearance, odor, whatever.
Of course, someone is going to be offended by that, and those are the ones who want the opposite. They want to be free to say whatever they want when they want and they want to see the same in the media so they don't feel guilty about it.

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19 Mar 2011, 5:24 pm

I've never watched that show, so I can't really comment.

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19 Mar 2011, 6:17 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=970yJGLpot0&feature=related[/youtube]

For everyone who never heard of her

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19 Mar 2011, 6:35 pm

Sue is not really a villain but her prejudice to others is a part of her character. She is the Eric Cartman of Glee.

Actually I've seen like one episode so I don't know for sure if she is a villain. But there are many characters in shows like this. We don't laugh at the jokes they make but that we can't believe they would make jokes like that.

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19 Mar 2011, 7:10 pm

I agree with what was said before. Sue makes fun of everyone. And most people only quote her because some of her lines are so insanely rude that they are funny. I think she makes the show entertaining by having a character that you can easily hate. Plus she doesn't discriminate against just one character. She picks on everyone equally, with the exception of Mr. Shcue of course. She also has sort of a nice side. Like when it comes to her sister, Becky, (The cheerleader with Down Sybdrome), and when Kurt (the gay kid) was being bullied. I personaly think that the show wouldn't be as good if she wasn't in it.

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19 Mar 2011, 7:12 pm

So Sue's a teacher and not a student? She looks too old to be a student...

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19 Mar 2011, 7:20 pm

Yup, Sue's the coach of the cheerleaders and has made it her life's mission to destroy the Glee club. Basically the Glee club - being decent human beings - keep alternating between giving her another chance because deep down she must be a nice person... and realizing nope, she really ain't and going to treating her like the enemy she is after she uses them trusting her to somehow hurt them. But she treats everyone like crap, down to blackmailing or threatening the principal if that's what it takes to get her way.

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19 Mar 2011, 7:23 pm

KBerg wrote:

An older woman is acting like that, and on top of it an authority figure? That's kind of sad. This show seems more and more useless, but I'll give it a try, anyway.

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