TYPES of ASD individuals from a professional source

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I think that this is also more useful than anything I have seen to date. I figure that most of the people on this board are NCSC category (either WISC or SASC). A smaller percentage will be high end ESC. I consider myself either very high end ESC or possibly very low funtioning WISC. The things that put my in ESC versus WISC include my complete social "aloofness". According to the document most NCSC people are very aware of being different and also get teased a lot or have depression and anxiety as a result. I had no awarenes that I was socially doing things wrong and when I did, I was very "meh" about it all (still am in fact). I also did not get picked on too very much that I am aware of. I grew up a bit arrogant but avoided depression as a result of failing to "fit in". Other things are my hardcore stimming and my inability to process many things due to black/white (literal thinking) as well as pretty extreme sensory issues. With this breakdown I can see what Anebund was saying to me RE my abilities in another thread and how she perceives that I work harder than many others have to work and also explains (in part) why I seem to have ZERO trouble landing a DX while so many others on the board are struggling for it.

It also seems to be proving my point that most of the people on this board are of the VERY high end of the spectrum wrt autism. Nearly everyone so far is NCSC. I will reference these "types" for sure in future discussions as I really think it puts things in perspective for many of our converstations. The person who is talking about taking things too personally (for example) clearly fits in the SASC type of ASD individual...

Anyway... I really like the breakdown.

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I've just been looking over this. I noticed perseveration only in ESC. I don't recall seeing this in SASC or WISC. I don't know where I fit in this thing.

When I was reading the CSC about things watched on tv are seen as real and that, "they may insist things happen the way they do on tv are real and become frustrated when unable to replicate them", it reminded me how when I was maybe 5, 6 or 7 I dove off some stairs thinking I could fly like Superman and landed on my chin and had to go get stitches with a heavy blanket on me.

That may be normal at that age though. haha

I grew up CSC. I'm like a severe ESC now. I think. Apparently I have little self awareness.

Still I like the paper and might look into it some more.

I relate to the WISC quite a bit. It seems to fit pretty well. I plan on reading more later, though.

That was pretty interesting, I also found kindship to WISC.

So... I don't really understand these categories. I don't know where I fit. I also don't think they're right about people staying where they are on their scale.

>.< this article just is *not* loading for me, I really want to look at these types. I agree with what you say, most people on this board must be pretty high-functioning. I relate with everything many of you say, HARDCORE, lol, but I've met other people with AS, just randomly, online and I see that they get picked on and can't really pull off a "normal" persona, even if they wanted to. This makes me feel grateful.

I'm a lot like what you describe yourself as. I never had a ton of anxiety about being weird or different, I was always *meh* about it. I've been called weird for most of my life, but many people were actually drawn to me because of it. Was never bullied much, I also come off as arrogant or aloof sometimes, but I've usually been pretty good at catching it before it turns people off. Some people even find it charming o_O There have always been people who think I'm nuts or just don't like me, but I *honestly* never cared. I never tried to fit it, and don't fit in with a lot of people, but have usually been able to find a comfortable spot in a few different groups of fellow weird people.

But YEAH O_____________________________O. I'm going to keep waiting for this to load.

Very interesting article. I like how it developed a lot more detail in functional descriptions.

I seem to identify most with ESC. When I read the WISC, that had some resonance, but the ESC seemed to more completely describe my utter cluelessness of social things.

I pegged you as ESC too. Your stories and mine seem to be VERY similar. Also explains (in part) your ease of DX. It wasn't like you had to go for a second opinion either.

ESC

The file is a PDF so you have to have adobe or some PDF reader installed to read it.

Whoa. I did not realize there was another like me. Glad to hear it. I keep reading about all these people who are so distressed because they don't fit in or can't make friends, etc and I am wondering how it is that I managed to get past these things. I think it is VERY healthy to have our issue of "meh" than to be so socially aware that you develop all these co-morbid conditions.

I don't know where I'd fit and 6 to 8 months ago I might not have known about myself as much as I do from getting feedback from someone and a professional.

I haven't read this thing straight through yet, I've just looked through it some. I see that I do relate to the ESC prognosis.

I don't think I'm CSC at all but I do relate to, "struggle to maintain interest in another when a person does not relate them about topics or games that are of interest to them".

Maybe sensory seeking when overwhelmed ( visually, I guess and cold hard floors)

Changes and environment cause me anxiety.

I need work to be based around a structure, routine, sameness, predicatbility and low amounts of talking or I can't handle it. Even as it is I've have to struggle to survive this. I've been told I need this type of work because of this and because it allows me to stay in my head (I've been working on this ). Basically I made my job I've had most of my adult life my routine and it's been extremely difficult and have consistently needed outside help to deal with it.

And I'm a hands on learner.

But I don't think I am CSC. I just can relate to some things and gave a few examples.

I like being "meh" socially, although online I guess I enjoy talking to people a lot more, and I have had more social periods but nearly all of my offline socialization has been in the context of special interests. If I didn't have a shared activity (like roleplaying games) to get me to hang out with people, I wouldn't hang out with people. This has actually been the case for several years. I tried to do some more casual socializing recently, but that didn't work, and I didn't really care for it.

My depression is about things falling apart all the time, less so caused by people (although I get frustrated with them a lot).

I was bullied, and that was frustrating in itself, and caused me a lot of anxiety because threats and such, which I guess points at WISC, but I think from various reports by people on the spectrum that the bullying may be underplayed a bit at ESC and beyond. I have no evidence for this, however.

I continue to be confused about whether ESC (which has a lot of things that fit me) or WISC (which has things that fit me as well) is a better fit. One thing that really stands out is the general lack of self-awareness and the cluelessness/obliviousness. I didn't realize I was different for a long time, and then only because I saw myself doing things that could be seen as autistic, or I read writing by other autistic people and recognized what they were saying. If I hadn't done the reading, I'd still think I was NT.

If ease of being recognized as autistic is relevant, I didn't quite have the first visit, but I did the third, after my therapist observed me for two sessions and did some additional research, and now she spends more time telling me how autistic I seem to be than I spend telling her.

Oh I have a HUGE number of people that I hang out with due to all my activites. I play classical guitar, football on a pro team (travel and all), Bodybuilding/fitness, work and now ASD stuff. I am social as hell. BUT I get a LOT Of social support from these people. They all see me as weird, but they love me for it or despite it. So when I say that I am "meh" socially, I mean that I don't care and don't see when I make social errors, NOT that I do not socialize. I socialize ALL the freak'n time.

I think I'm ESC with some WISC traits. I have very good language, and my parents never said anything about any language issues or problems with pronouns. I also had some social anxiety issues in middle school... I don't think it was because of having good social awareness though. I was aware enough to know that I didn't fit in with everyone else, and I was was aware of the fact that other people have thoughts, but it was not knowing what other people would think and do that made me anxious. The rest of the stuff is more on the ESC level of severity though.

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