Do you get paranoia over certain countries/nations?

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19 Apr 2011, 6:24 pm

I'm paranoid that the majority of middle-eastern countries are eventually going to blow up all of the UK. Hate me, but I say it is a possibility.



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19 Apr 2011, 6:38 pm

I was going to pass this by, but Simonono's signature made me want to post just to comment that it made me chuckle.

While I'm here, I'd say that the most legitimately terrifying country in the world is the United States...And I live here.



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19 Apr 2011, 6:50 pm

Iran. As soon as they get their hands on nukes it will be like this:

"What? You're not Islam?"

**BOOM**


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19 Apr 2011, 6:58 pm

Nuclear proliferation is worth being a bit paranoid about. A nation that appears to be above board, playing by the rules, could be capable of sponsoring a nuclear weapon through a terrorist group. My bets are on Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, perhaps Yemen. Maybe Egypt in the future.
These nations are worthy of paranoia and suspicion.



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19 Apr 2011, 10:04 pm

Rather than nuking Israel I wish these countries like Iran would use their atomic bombs to propel a manned spaceship to Mars. There would be far more glory if they were the first to make this achievment because Mars is the ultimate high ground.
The world would be a much safer place because a Mars mission would use up all of Irans nuclear weapons as well as the nuclear weapons of Pakistan and India. I think such a mission would be technically feasable for a country like Iran and would be much easier and cheaper to build than a chemical rocket. The question is not whether the mission is technically feasible but whether or not a nation is insane enough to light a thousand atomic bombs in order to propel the rocket. But as insane as this mission is it is infinitely less insane than starting a nuclear war with Israel.



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20 Apr 2011, 8:51 am

SammichEater wrote:
Iran. As soon as they get their hands on nukes it will be like this:

"What? You're not Islam?"

**BOOM**
I think, if Iran actually develops nuclear weapons, it's more likely to be Israel vapourising Iran first - and then all hell will break loose.
And unlike Iran, Israel is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_No ... ion_Treaty


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20 Apr 2011, 9:04 am

Cornflake wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
Iran. As soon as they get their hands on nukes it will be like this:

"What? You're not Islam?"

**BOOM**
I think, if Iran actually develops nuclear weapons, it's more likely to be Israel vapourising Iran first - and then all hell will break loose.


Count on it. Think of blind dying Sampson in the Temple of Dagon. What was his dying act?

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20 Apr 2011, 9:23 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Phonic wrote:
I have paranoia over the United States, for sort of justified reasons I think.
I dont worry about China since we're their best customers, Russia is pretty quiet since they decided the cold war years never actually happened ("nucleur wessles? where?"), North Korea is more comical in a cartoonish super villian way then an actual competitor to NATO, the nukes are a non point since no one would dare use them since it assures there own destruction.

So I mostly fear the US, not in that I think the US would attack the EU, but because we are dealing with waves of suicide bombers and terrorism and endless wars because of the US government, which basically created a generation of people who despise white people for bombing there homes in the name of anti USSR and democracy.

It all started with Algeria and France.


i agree that European colonial powers started "it" but the US is the "big bad" now and putting us all in danger.

And it's worth noting about fear of Iraq that Iraq is probably the least dangerous nation in the third world right now, which has been true for awhile, and I think it's sort of 10 years in the past to be saying your fear Iraq when we own Iraq.


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20 Apr 2011, 9:37 am

ruveyn wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
Iran. As soon as they get their hands on nukes it will be like this:

"What? You're not Islam?"

**BOOM**
I think, if Iran actually develops nuclear weapons, it's more likely to be Israel vapourising Iran first - and then all hell will break loose.
Count on it. Think of blind dying Sampson in the Temple of Dagon. What was his dying act?
Hmm. Good point.


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25 Apr 2011, 2:38 am

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25 Apr 2011, 2:53 am

Phonic wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Phonic wrote:
I have paranoia over the United States, for sort of justified reasons I think.
I dont worry about China since we're their best customers, Russia is pretty quiet since they decided the cold war years never actually happened ("nucleur wessles? where?"), North Korea is more comical in a cartoonish super villian way then an actual competitor to NATO, the nukes are a non point since no one would dare use them since it assures there own destruction.

So I mostly fear the US, not in that I think the US would attack the EU, but because we are dealing with waves of suicide bombers and terrorism and endless wars because of the US government, which basically created a generation of people who despise white people for bombing there homes in the name of anti USSR and democracy.

It all started with Algeria and France.


i agree that European colonial powers started "it" but the US is the "big bad" now and putting us all in danger.

And it's worth noting about fear of Iraq that Iraq is probably the least dangerous nation in the third world right now, which has been true for awhile, and I think it's sort of 10 years in the past to be saying your fear Iraq when we own Iraq.

The US and Europe, not to mention China, who all depend on the oil.



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25 Apr 2011, 11:20 am

I'm going to agree with Chamomile here. I'm from the US too, and I think it's an outlaw state that is now the one remaining superpower in the world, and as the biggest bully on the block it seems to think it can do anything it wants to anyone it wants any time it wants. I don't see much difference in the Dems or Repubs either. None of them have any respect whatsoever for the opinions and concerns of the rest of the world.



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25 Apr 2011, 7:31 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Rather than nuking Israel I wish these countries like Iran would use their atomic bombs to propel a manned spaceship to Mars. There would be far more glory if they were the first to make this achievment because Mars is the ultimate high ground.
The world would be a much safer place because a Mars mission would use up all of Irans nuclear weapons as well as the nuclear weapons of Pakistan and India. I think such a mission would be technically feasable for a country like Iran and would be much easier and cheaper to build than a chemical rocket. The question is not whether the mission is technically feasible but whether or not a nation is insane enough to light a thousand atomic bombs in order to propel the rocket. But as insane as this mission is it is infinitely less insane than starting a nuclear war with Israel.

Iran don't have any nukes. They are enriching fuel to build them and they do have reasonably good rockets.

State of play at the moment is something like:
US - several thousand ready warheads, many thousands more in storage.
Russia - several thousand ready warheads, many thousands more in storage.
China, France, Britain - couple of hundred ready warheads.
Israel, India, Pakistan - hundred or so ready warheads.
North Korea - handful of warheads.
South Africa had a small number of weapons.
As one bomb will crash the world economy, a regional exchange between India and Pakistan will trigger mass starvation and a major exchange will kill (mostly indirectly) a good chunk of the Earth's population, it's not possible to be paranoid about the general nuclear threat: it is (and will permanently remain) severe.

Anyhoo, an Orion's outside Iran's capacity - they've been helped extensively with their nuclear program - and encouraging them to develop a load of small bombs for an Orion would be a bad idea. But lofting a reactor into space for a VASIMR drive, or something similar, would be pretty cool, although it'd push their rogue-stateness very high if they did launch a reactor, 'cause it'd be portrayed as posing a massive risk if the launch failed.


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26 Apr 2011, 3:04 am

The USA--and I live there. If I remember correctly, 1/3 Americans think 9-11 was an inside job, 1/3 believe we never went to the moon, 50% (80% of Republicans) think Barack Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim who has no legitimate authority, 60% don't believe in global warming. It's statistics like these that really make you question the merits of democracy, especially since we have these reactionary teabaggers gaining momentum, who believe the last 150 years of social reform has been bad for society, and who actually think that state governments have every right to undermine the federal government if not the Constitution itself. They actually want to repeal the 14th Amendment because then it will be easier to go after those darn Mexicans that have their babies on American soil. If you listen to the rhetoric of the Right as of late, you'd swear the GOP was intentionally trying to destroy the country. Sarah Palin doesn't think schools should have to serve healthier lunches, because the government has no right to tell us how to raise our kids (never mind that most of the schools are run by the government). Speaking of which, another teabagger--David Harmer (CA Rep.)--wants public education abolished altogether. If one of these psychos gets elected President I might actually leave the country. I'll probably go to New Zealand because it's out of range of most of the nuclear missiles in the northern hemisphere.



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26 Apr 2011, 8:11 am

Yes, all neighbors want eat us, especially greeks.. and all support them against us. :roll:



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27 Apr 2011, 8:15 am

TheSnarkKnight wrote:
60% don't believe in global warming. It's statistics like these that really make you question the merits of democracy, .


Some of the wealthy oil barons who laugh and scoff at global warming will be among the first to build underground refuges with biosphere containment units for them to live.