Are you capable of hate?

Post Reply New Topic

Even if it's millions of them?

Even if they have absolutely no incentive to learn the language because many government translation services are translated into every single African tribal language you care to name (at considerable cost)? Where you can go to the local hospital and find leaflets in fifteen different languages where one would do?

Even if the native population were never asked about such huge social change?

Even if Eastern European 2004- EU migrants are able to claim for kids back in their 'home countries' that quite possibly don't even exist?

Even if the government is letting in bad, unstable, terrorist-supporting people who take our benefit handouts and then preach nothing but hatred against us and our society? (Abu Hamza, Abu Qatada, 'Andy' Choudhury et al.)

Even if the US government secretly claims that Britain is a haven for Islamist terrorism due to the country's stupid, antagonistic, segregationist and divisive social policies?

Even if, when confronted with the scale of the problem, the elites marginalise, ignore and dehumanise those with different opinions to their own? Or when people in areas that have experienced a huge influx of immigrants start voting for racist parties because they feel forced out? Or they flee the area because the immigrants have been told they can simply impose their own, often backward and repressive, culture on the country rather than integrating and adopting ours?

Even if second-generation female immigrants never learn the English language due to communal repression and lack of access to education?

And so on.

Last edited by Tequila on 26 Apr 2011, 6:52 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Actual hatred towards anyone or anything? No. If you asked me if I really wanted the object of my "hatred" to suffer, and I had a little time to think about it, I would say "absolutely not."

Anger, though... that is a different story. I get angry very, very easily.

There are so many issues that have simply been decided on by the political elites without recourse to consulting the public. It's like we are alien species to them - to all our citizens, whether they be old or new.

I can get angry at someone, but it doesn't last. I'll admit that there are a few people who irritate me greatly whenever they are around. The feeling doesn't go past mere annoyance, though.

As for actual hatred, though, no... I don't think I'm capable of that. I have trouble hurting anything. An early memory of mine involved me bursting into tears because my grandmother killed a spider. My mom always escorted spiders and bugs out, so it came as a real shock that people could be capable of such violence. I still avoid killing or hurting anything if possible.

This is true, and it makes me angry.

But I can't hate them, because to me they seem kind of like children who never quite manage to catch up to the rest of the class.

I'm certainly capable of hate, but I'm not sure if I'm capable of the opposite, love.

I am capable of hate but I can't hold on to it for very long. My hate is more like a single spark. It doesn't last long and sometimes what i'm angry about isn't that important.

This is an aspie-ish thing? I just thought it was a weird thing. I was raised Christian and still am a follower of Christ, though I've given up on attending church. So I always "blamed" my lack of hatred on my belief in God.

Still, I must say that while I never feel hatred toward any human, I do feel a combo of hatred/anger at ideas and inequality.

On a theoretical level I suppose I could hate others, but have not been on the receiving end of the sort of treatment that would possibly invoke the response.

Having said that, there's one individual I do happen to hate: myself. The hurt and disappointment I've brought to others, the self-defeating patterns of behavior I bring to virtually all that I do again and again, and the fact that I am a parasite off of the labor of others fills me with utter disgust. And though this may not be fair I am so tired of my incompetence when listening to others, matching faces with names, clumsy, slow and illegible handwriting, well, it simply adds to the package.

My hatred nowadays is a rather cold thing, curiously I seem to have left outbursts of anger behind, only occasionally direcitng them at nonsense like video games, or spectator sports, not at what I know is in the past and what I acknowledge will be another day's litany of failures as I wake up each morning. Yes,some days are better than others, but in the long-run I return to type. And so I hate. Dispassionately, if that does not create an oxymoron when associated with a word like hate.

Yes, I feel hate. My emotions are very strong. I suppose it's more anger than hate and it only lasts for as long as I am angry. I have said I've hated people when in the moment but later regretted it.

If I hate anyone it is those types of people that say things against asylum seekers and make fun of people with disabilities.

Anger yes, but not hate. At least I don't think so. It's one of those uncomprehendable emotional things, I don't really know.

Interesting. This is the flipside, of course, and I strongly suspect I can't love, either. Most of the few connections I have are based on familiarity, dependence (which I am insanely uncomfortable with) habit, or convenience. I've been repeatedly told I'm cold and/or distant. I'm capable of mild affection and am generally friendly with people regardless, but anything more intense than that seems inaccessible to me. Again, I see intensity of apparently positive emotion for people as readily accessible as the negative emotions in others around me - but me? Not so much. It's not through lack of effort - I've tried to form attachments, but it never seems to take. Makes me wonder if I'm missing something fundamental to humanity, as it seems such a focus of everyone else. Love and hate. I can register anger - mainly in the form of irritation when people's behaviour annoys me, but I thought hatred was different than just annoyance. I thought hatred involved a lasting impression following that initial anger. Maybe I just never get that far, or don't see the point in it.
Maybe this side of the question is why the morality/ethics idea interests me so much. I suspect I'm capable of doing things that are both "bad" and "good" but not because of any moral or emotional judgement - it's all grey to me. I guess it would depend on the situation and all the variables involved. I just don't seem to think in terms of good, bad, right, wrong, love or hate.

Mm. That warrants further thought. I've been told I'm "self destructive" but from what motivation I have no idea, being usually inclined toward alexithymia.
My approach instead of hate tends to be dismissal. If I identify something/someone in my life as an unnecessary disruptor, I will simply ignore the fact that the person/thing exists. I just tend to avoid it - it's ice rather than fire. Again, why people call me robotic. Someone could have beaten the hell out of me, and I'll just dismiss the whole package as an unnecessary antagonist.

i dont think i'm capable of hate.
there are quite a lot of people who'd deserve my hate against them, but i dont hate them (maybe to not give them the satisfaction, maybe becouse it's too much effort, maybe becouse i can't hate, i dont know...)
however, if someone gets to me; i do hold grudges for years, so it's not like i always forgive and forget, but to me, a grudge and deep-rooted hate are different things, i can still work together with someone i hold several deep grudges against (who i 'hate' according to NTs)

i hate hate.

I am capable of hate but it only harms my mindset. I would rather feel peaceful, although it's not always easy to do that, but I much prefer that - to shut out hate and anything that can cause me to hate, and just feel good and peaceful.

i am not able to hate generally i think. i think i know what hate is because i have experienced it like when i hit my thumb with a hammer. i hated the hammer to a point where i desired it's extinction for a few minutes after it injured me.

but my antagonism toward the hammer rapidly evaporated over only about 4 minutes. there is no benefit to hate anything because it drags you into a negatively coercive maelstrom of effrontery and disgust which will not remedy the situation.

"hate" is not the opposite of "love".

the opposite of "love" is indifference, and the opposite of "hate" is also "indifference".

the opposite of "an extremely emotionally intense attitude" to something, is "cold sterile indifference"

i have no feelings of "hate" for anyone because if i do not like them, i cast them out of my consciousness and i forget them rapidly. i have no interest in "apologies" either. "apologies" mean nothing to me.

although i do not hate anyone.......let me define my concept of "hate" first.

"hatred" is the feeling of negative love toward a person or group of people. it is the wish that some misfortune will prevail in their lives. it is a feeling of insultedness that the hated person even exists.

so i do not hate anyone. i do not care about anyone enough to hate them. no one has ever interfered with my flow in life so there is no one who i lined up in my sites.

i do however have a very poor attitude towards some people. i can see no value in those people's existence. i generally dislike people because they are breeding out of control and they are very territorial and everyone scrambles for a spot, and i have a less than admiring attitude to them, but i do not hate anyone because everyone has an equal right to live. no one can help that they were born, and no one can help that they may not be fabulously designed.

everyone in the universe is a victim of chance.

edit: i removed a tautological sentence.

Last edited by b9 on 27 Apr 2011, 8:24 am, edited 2 times in total.