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06 May 2011, 4:51 am

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I thought the questions about remembering car number plates etc. were too specific to be of much use (we're not all trainspotters). I also suspect that the AQ test is largely unsuitable for women. Considering that Baron-Cohen believes men are from Mars and women from Venus, it seems strange that he hasn't published a women's AQ test yet.


I'm with you on that one- I also think it's a very male dominated test. I wonder what a woman's test would look like. I relly think many people have the stereotype that only white males can have Aspergers.

I aint white and I ain't male and yes, I am an Aspie....



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06 May 2011, 6:22 am

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I always wanted to tick between the boxes. I didn't like the questions like "have others told you that you are rude" because it's extremely rare that anybody tells me anything at all about myself, so I felt those questions were missing the point, because I'm sure I've been rude, etc., and I think that's what the test really needs to know.


I really relate to what you said there 100%...No one ever describes me unless I ask them to, and my mother is the only person I dare ask that question! And she is most likely biased... :lol: ...but, when it comes to that specific question, my mother *has* accused me of being rude and insensitive, which I was confused about.

Me too. It is very rare that I'm told I'm rude. When I embarrass myself, ppl move on. Although, I get feedback when ppl finally get angry with me and sort me out badly...



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06 May 2011, 6:50 am

I went through the AQ test with my suspected HFA friend recently, helping him to fill out, and we kept falling over the questions with puzzled minds just like all of you writing here. I totally agree with you (and wonder a little why this test was proved here on WP being one of the most reliable of the online Aspie-related tests, besides the Aspie quiz.)

I did my best with translation and interpretation, but this one ""When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise." I totally misunderstood then...


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06 May 2011, 7:04 am

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I did my best with translation and interpretation, but this one ""When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise." I totally misunderstood then...


To be honest, I can't really fathom how 'interrupting others' can be derived from this... :oops: ...if someone would explain?



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06 May 2011, 7:21 am

Luci wrote:
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I did my best with translation and interpretation, but this one ""When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise." I totally misunderstood then...


To be honest, I can't really fathom how 'interrupting others' can be derived from this... :oops: ...if someone would explain?

It can't, as far as I can see....to me, it just means talking on and on, it says nothing about how you get to start talking.



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06 May 2011, 2:36 pm

Luci wrote:
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I did my best with translation and interpretation, but this one ""When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise." I totally misunderstood then...


To be honest, I can't really fathom how 'interrupting others' can be derived from this... :oops: ...if someone would explain?



I didn't make it up, it's what y-pod said. Maybe he or she can explain. Or did I read it wrong?



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06 May 2011, 2:41 pm

Luci wrote:
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I did my best with translation and interpretation, but this one ""When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise." I totally misunderstood then...


To be honest, I can't really fathom how 'interrupting others' can be derived from this... :oops: ...if someone would explain?


I always thought that meant that when you talked, it was a one-sided conversation and you never paused to allow the other participant(s) to participate.



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06 May 2011, 3:08 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Luci wrote:
OJani wrote:
I did my best with translation and interpretation, but this one ""When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise." I totally misunderstood then...


To be honest, I can't really fathom how 'interrupting others' can be derived from this... :oops: ...if someone would explain?



I didn't make it up, it's what y-pod said. Maybe he or she can explain. Or did I read it wrong?


What s/he said was «Like this one "When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise. " I wasn't aware of this until very recently and I'm 38. I wasn't even aware that I interrupt other people's talking all the time until last year»; I could be wrong, but don't think that s/he is saying that "When I talk, it isn't always easy for others to get a word in edgewise"="I interrupt other people's talking all the time".



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06 May 2011, 3:24 pm

I wasn't initially sure how to respond to many of the questions... many of the things they are asking are things I have learned and practice daily adaptive behaviors for. Do I answer based on my pre-behavior modifications or do I answer post modifications? Can I make small talk - yes. Do I understand it's purpose, maintain an interest in it while practicing it or seek it out from others for my own comfort - hell no.

I've answered all of these tests as a right now snap shot - post modifications. I still came out on the spectrum. At the high end of it, but still firmly there. I'm kind of scared to take it from the pre-modifications POV.



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06 May 2011, 3:29 pm

Luci wrote:
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I always wanted to tick between the boxes. I didn't like the questions like "have others told you that you are rude" because it's extremely rare that anybody tells me anything at all about myself, so I felt those questions were missing the point, because I'm sure I've been rude, etc., and I think that's what the test really needs to know.


I really relate to what you said there 100%...No one ever describes me unless I ask them to, and my mother is the only person I dare ask that question! And she is most likely biased... :lol: ...but, when it comes to that specific question, my mother *has* accused me of being rude and insensitive, which I was confused about.


My mother doesn't typically tell me I'm rude, but she does have a tendency to translate my language/behavior to others who do think I am rude, which I first really noticed a few years ago.



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06 May 2011, 3:35 pm

This test seems to be written by someone who doesn't understand how ambiguous the questions are. Many of them are difficult to know what they're even asking. I think this test fails basic comprehensibility.

"I am fascinated by dates." The nuts used in a recipe? A night out with someone? A designation for a chronological event (like when the Civil War started)?

I would not know how to answer "I would rather go to a library than to a party." and "I would rather go to the theater than to a museum" I would not go to any of the four if I had any choice, and all are equally bad for me, so how can I honestly answer? Similarly, questions ask "People often tell me" and "Other people frequently tell me" but no one frequently tells me anything. How do I honestly answer?

"When I'm reading a story, I find it difficult to work out the characters' intentions." You mean like early Earnest Hemingway where you can't even tell who is speaking because he goes pages without indicating a speaker in his dialogue, or do you mean some emo young-adult writer like Maureen Johnson who hits readers over the head with it?

I have trouble parsing what "playing games involving pretending with other children" means, and how I parse would affect my answer. Maybe "playing games with other children which involve pretending", or "playing games where I pretend I am playing with other children".

And so on - this test isn't very good because it's not easy to understand.



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06 May 2011, 3:35 pm

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I wasn't initially sure how to respond to many of the questions... many of the things they are asking are things I have learned and practice daily adaptive behaviors for. Do I answer based on my pre-behavior modifications or do I answer post modifications? Can I make small talk - yes. Do I understand it's purpose, maintain an interest in it while practicing it or seek it out from others for my own comfort - hell no.

I've answered all of these tests as a right now snap shot - post modifications. I still came out on the spectrum. At the high end of it, but still firmly there. I'm kind of scared to take it from the pre-modifications POV.


I answered it as I recall myself as a teenager and got 43.

I should try that with the Aspie Quiz.



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06 May 2011, 3:48 pm

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People don't usually tells others they were rude. That is something they do to kids, not adults.

Maybe the question should be: "Do other people look as though they really wish they could tell you you are being rude but are so bound up in some fickle unwritten social rule that prevents them from telling the truth even though it may help you to avoid making people feel uncomfortable?" :D



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06 May 2011, 7:43 pm

hehehe... I had my husband take the Wired AQ test - he got a 15. He's even more normal that the average...



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06 May 2011, 8:00 pm

I scored 40 on that thing but I have no idea of the real 'severity' of my condition. :?


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06 May 2011, 8:06 pm

Even though this quiz doesn't really have a high predictability for possessing aspergers for "moderate scores"(in the 30-40 range), the multiple-regression analysis I performed suggested that it was nearly twice as predictive as the Aspie quiz. However, someone might want to look over the formula I derived in computing the relative predictability just to be sure...

And, anyways, I totally agree. There definitely needs to be a more objective test for aspergers such as an "ability" or "skills" or something other than a self-assessment test. I was looking into creating such a test by essentially copying Queendom's test, but I'd have to pay people to pose for photographs and I don't really want to put in that kind of financial risk for something that might prove to not be that predictive. I'd have to pay people because stealing Queendom's material directly would obviously put me in legal hot water.



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