Who knows some good NTs? I mean really good friends ect

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Most of my better friends couldn't really be classified as NT. My brother-in-law is pretty cool though.

Most of the NTs I have met have been nice. I hate to say this but I have met some selfish aspies. I have also met selfish NTs and good aspies. It doesn't make much of a difference in my opinion. I have had much more experience with NTs in real life than aspies, in fact, I have never met another person with an ASD outside special needs groups at school or in the community, so I am mostly going from what I see on this site for the aspies.

My two closest friends are NT. My parents are NT (I think). All the guys in my favourite band are NT (I have met every one of them except one and they seem nice). My favourite radio host (I met him as well and he is nice) is NT. My favourite teacher is NT. All my casual friends are NT. Most of my acquaintances are NT. So, yes, a lot of people I know and like are NT.

Of course, I have met some NTs that I didn't like very much as well, but same goes for non-NTs.

I generally get along with 75%-80% of people. It doesn't have anything to do with them being neurotypical or not. I have never really thought about it.

By the way, when I say "NT" here, I am talking about people without autism, as I can't about mental disorders, if you could call autism that.

Is this thread serious? 90% of the people in the world are NTs. Most all of my friends are NTs and I have a LOT of friends. They are amazing people. Those of you who have distrust of 90% of the people in the world need to rethink some things... Or get some counsellings. That is just an unhealthy view IMHO.

I have a great NT friend who I saw today. He's the most normal person I know. We had a great time hanging out and chatting about a heap of stuff. I don't think I have any others.

It's not a silly question, because although I don't get the impression that NTs have any more tendency to be selfish than Aspies, they do seem to have (almost by definition?) a tendency to congregate in things called "societies", which are strange and terrible beasts indeed, seeming to my mind like alien bug-eyed monsters. I may exaggerate a tad.

I can only think of one person I've known at all well who, with hindsight (this was in the early 1970s), was probably an Aspie. (I don't know whether I'm an Aspie myself, I'm still in the process of trying to work it out.) He was another mathematics student at my college, and he honestly struggled with things I refused to admit even to myself I was struggling with. He was the oddest person I knew. I feel a kind of kinship now, and guilt for not having been more respectful and supportive to him then. I let him down, and let myself down, too. That was selfish.

I recognised we had something in common, of course, but I was trying to remain above it. I hate myself for that. It was indeed a very NT thing to do. (Is that fair? It's myself I'm criticising, but is it fair to NTs to say that my own fault was a very NT fault?)

I've only had one friend close enough to really relax with, and he was NT, and an exceptionally good and unselfish person. (He died recently, and I'm still reeling, even though we hadn't been close for years.)

By a miracle (actually a long and exceedingly twisted story), I got married late in life, to someone very much an NT, and an abusive evangelical religious maniac to boot! I thought I'd suffered before, but that was Hell on Earth! By another miracle (and this I really don't understand, my memory draws a blank on how it happened, I must have been dissociated to the point of madness) we had a daughter. By yet another miracle, I won sole custody of our daughter, E___, not because I'm anywhere near being a fit father, but because her mother was so abusive that she chose to live with me. E___ is understandably bitter about my inadequacies, and I am tortured with remorse for having brought a child into a world I could never understand myself. Anyway, the point is, although she has some of my mental traits (in a way that no-one else I've met has, so I think it's genetic), and she thinks very deeply and fearlessly (at age 19 she understands things I am barely starting to understand at age 59), she is probably far more NT than Aspie. I'll have to get her to take the Aspie Quiz some time (but not now, as she is doing A-levels and is under stress). And she's a wonderful person. I don't say that just because I'm her Dad. She has her faults, and she can be rather callous towards me, but in a sense she has every right to be.

I spent the first 40 years of my life thinking I was an NT with a few weird traits. Except for my brother, all my friends and family are/were NT.

The cat was the out of the bag when my daughter was diagnosed with ASD. The Psychologist asked me about my family tree and my brother came to mind, he had a speech delay until 6 but was fairly normal after about 10 yrs old. I was always weird, I took a couple of online tests and I unofficially self diagnosed myself as an AS.
I also suspect my brother was a HFA like my daughter.

Thus I had covertly infiltrated the world of NTs and passed off as one them.

What do I think of them? NTs are bought up in a highly competitive world, where Darwinian principles are applied to society through the framework of free market capitalism. Selfishness and self interest are assumed, how do I know? just open the first chapter of any introductory text book on economics and it's the first assumption you learn.

Psychology and biology predict we are programmed for finding and controlling resources, mating and passing on our genes. Yet, our saving grace is compassion and altruism, a mechanism by which we serve our own interests by helping the wider society or other individuals (not just fellow gene carriers in our family).

I have met some very compassionate, altruistic NTs who are very passionate about lending a helping hand to others. Not all of them are selfish, arrogant or evil.

Thank you.

I took it as serious. I'm sure you know that there are plenty of people on this forum who do not have a single person in their lives who they feel treats them decently. So, for them, that 90% figure might as well be ... anything. It's awesome that you're friends with a LOT of amazing NTs. Most people here would probably like to be in that position. But, they're not. Whether that means they're unhealthy and need counseling, I'm not sure -- not qualified to say. What I can say is that most people here are in some form of counseling, so they're already taking your advice. Maybe it's just not as easy as it sounds ... IDK.

I know some great people. They are rare to find but there's hope. Not all of them are bad

I never meet another person with ASD other than myself. And yes, i've knew some great NTs (though almost all friend i had (few) were eccentric).

All my friends are NT, and are awesome, and have stood by me even when my life is going badly. I guess that's partly because I have spent most of my life in a fairly aspie-friendly environment.

I met people I would consider calling good,or great not before the age of 25 and I am 33 now. I think I have got one good friend who is very much NT.

I know a few people with AS, but all my best friends are NTs. They're good people.

"Good" is relative and subjective.

So much depends on your own tolerance for inconsistencies in people, contradictory behavior, selfishness, insensitivity, and all the other difficult aspects of most people due to their own ignorance.

We ALL have blindspots because we can only understand ourselves, others, whatever we're perceiving from our experience.

Who can experience everything? Noone.

So we have blindspots. These blindspots cause us to be inconsistent, contradictory, selfish, and insensitive sometimes.

Agreed. I don't have many friends at all, but I always assumed the fault was mine, not theirs. I have kept up with one woman who is most certainly NT for over ten years now, and what makes it work for us is she is accepting of me being a little on the strange side. She just expects that I will behave oddly, so isn't scared/offended/whatever when I do. Conversely, I know she is NT and may not understand me much of the time, so will adapt and offer an explanation for anything significantly strange. Many NTs aren't so accepting, though, and maybe that's where NT/AS communication fails?

Maybe I overlooked that fact that I was in a hostel...