Is this irony the FINAL PROOF THAT I AM NT?

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05 Jun 2011, 5:45 am

Dunno about final, but it is proof that you are still fairly misinformed about matters relating to autism, Asperger's and neurotype.

Read more, proclaim less.


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05 Jun 2011, 6:45 am

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Especially when your sole criteria is that they have "charisma" and therefor could not possibly be on the spectrum.

:lol:. My understanding of people far exceeds what I communicate, for there are the ineffable aspects of personality. All of those traits plus charisma plus my NT comprehension of situations = REALLY HIGH ACCURACY, you dig? Plus, you can't forget, I have an exceedingly high nonverbal IQ and my emotional intelligence scores were off the charts, so you can't immediately dismiss me on the basis of what I type, alone.


So you have no issues with reading and communicating with body language?

I think your interesting and your attempts to disprove your AS made me smile this morning though I am still trying to figure out if your joking or not.

If you really don't think you have AS have you looked. Into OCD?

You defiantly have an obsession though which is common with AS


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05 Jun 2011, 8:50 am

i have never been banned from a forum and i have only been banned from irc twice. Once for an IP address issue and once because the person did not believe that I was 18 (which, at the time, i was). Maybe people are threatening to ban you because you are doing something that is seen as ban worthy.


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05 Jun 2011, 8:59 am

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Do you think anyone at all is even slightly interested?


Lacking a theory of mind or possessing a diminished one entails that I have no idea if anyone would be interested, suggesting I could in fact lack such a thing. But, I don't care -- my neurological type interests me and that's all that really matters to me, and I'm just trying to seek a consensus among my fairly rational peers.

Btw, since you're obviously so interested in threads that disinterest you, you should post in threads about watching paint dry more often. :P



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05 Jun 2011, 9:09 am

swbluto wrote:
The majority of participants here have been banned on other forums, but aren't being banned here because it's their "safe haven".


Citation needed.

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Whereas for me, I've never been banned on other forums because people get the concept of "teasing" and mockery and respond appropriately, but yet doing that very same thing here gets people's feathers ruffled because they take things so literally and whine and cry about it which attracts the attention of sympathetic moderators which is currently resulting in a ban being threatened.


What one person thinks is a joke is actually just being rude for no good reason. I get joking. I don't think what you do is funny. People driven to angry, swearing retorts to your posts is not a sign that something humorous has occurred.

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So, in summary, aspies getted banned elsewhere but not here, while I've never been banned elsewhere but yet it's being threatened here.


Whether one is banned from this forum or not has nothing to do with neurotype, and everything to do with following the rules. Which means not provoking people, insulting people, attacking people etc.

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I AM NT? :lol:


Not according to your complete misunderstanding of social mores. WP isn't that much different from anywhere else regarding what is considered acceptable behaviour.


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05 Jun 2011, 9:18 am

swbluto wrote:
nemorosa wrote:
Do you think anyone at all is even slightly interested?


Lacking a theory of mind or possessing a diminished one entails that I have no idea if anyone would be interested, suggesting I could in fact lack such a thing. But, I don't care -- my neurological type interests me and that's all that really matters to me, and I'm just trying to seek a consensus among my fairly rational peers.

Btw, since you're obviously so interested in threads that disinterest you, you should post in threads about watching paint dry more often. :P


I have the same disabilities yet am sufficiently grounded to realise that nobody on WP could give a toss whether or not I was aspie or NT.

However, you are quick to make assumptions. I never said any of this wasn't interesting; just not interesting in the way you may expect. I find inexplicable human behaviour very interesting.



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05 Jun 2011, 9:23 am

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Because I'm half aspie/half NT. The aspie side obsesses with the possibility of being fully aspie, while the NT side communicates, thinks and generates situations in such a way that contradicts that possibility. :lol:


This is called "broad autistic phenotype."

Didn't you come here because you were having social difficulties?


So, I was looking for a "broad autistic phenotype scale" and found one at http://www.okcupid.com/results/the-broa ... _aloof=101 . I thought, socially, I was answering pretty autistically and the report said I was "socially odd", but I looked at the percentile scores and I was less EVERYTHING than the average person taking that test.

You scored 101% on aloof, higher than 41% of your peers.

You scored 60% on rigid, higher than 8% of your peers.

You scored 87% on pragmatic, higher than 46% of your peers.

You scored 0% on diagnosis, higher than 7% of your peers.

Is the average person taking that test autistic or half-autistic or something and not my average neurotypical peer randomly interested in taking such a test? I'm NOT supposed to epitomize a neurotypical, dag nabbit. :lol:

I was looking at the distribution curves, and they seem to be bimodal, where there's two humps in the graph suggesting two distinct populations are taking this test. The "more neurotypical" hump seems significantly smaller than the "more autistic" hump, suggesting that there might be a large number of autistic types taking this test and neurotypicals make up a small fraction of those taking it. However, I looked at the recent results and it appears 2 out of 5 people obtained "neurotypical" so maybe the percentage of people taking the test who are neurotypical is high enough for a "fair distribution". But, then I looked at their subtest scores and there scores pretty much landed on or fairly close to the "more neurotypical" humps in the distribution curves, so I'm guessing that's the neurotypical distribution I should be comparing myself to, as apparently a large number of aspies or autistics took this quiz thereby skewing the statistics.

I looked at scores from what would presumably be mostly neurotypicals at http://forums.infjs.com/showthread.php?t=13356, and my rigidity scores were less than everyone there.



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05 Jun 2011, 9:26 am

It sounds like you're using a modified version of Devil's Advocate, swbluto. It's a great way to gain understanding when the people you're questioning understand what you're doing, and I use it often, myself. But it also involves a fine line between constructive debate and trolling. It would seem to many on this board that you've overstepped this line. I'll admit that this is easy to do accidentally, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But please realize that calling someone out to defend their opinions is not usually the best way to get them to do so. Likewise, making outrageous proclamations also tends not to have the best results.



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05 Jun 2011, 9:54 am

All this analysis is fine and dandy but being and as*hole in the end is simply being an as*hole - whether someone is AS or not.

And to make my earlier post clear: shitstirring and hurting people is mean, but whinging when you get a kick in the butt for it is stupid.



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05 Jun 2011, 10:07 am

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All this analysis is fine and dandy but being and as*hole in the end is simply being an as*hole - whether someone is AS or not.

And to make my earlier post clear: shitstirring and hurting people is mean, but whinging when you get a kick in the butt for it is stupid.


Lol, I was never whinging, I was simply wondering if this dynamic was suggestive of NT status.

And, if one is an as*hole and has aspergers, than that'd make them doubly AS, right? One for having Aspergers Syndrome and one for having the as*hole Syndrome. Hey, that'd make one the paragon of AS. It's be ironic if Ultra-AS's tended to get banned from the forum for being too AS. :lol:



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05 Jun 2011, 10:12 am

swbluto wrote:
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Because I'm half aspie/half NT. The aspie side obsesses with the possibility of being fully aspie, while the NT side communicates, thinks and generates situations in such a way that contradicts that possibility. :lol:


This is called "broad autistic phenotype."

Didn't you come here because you were having social difficulties?


So, I was looking for a "broad autistic phenotype scale" and found one at http://www.okcupid.com/results/the-broa ... _aloof=101 . I thought, socially, I was answering pretty autistically and the report said I was "socially odd", but I looked at the percentile scores and I was less EVERYTHING than the average person taking that test.


Yes, that's a test named after the idea. I wasn't saying whether or not you were BAP. My intended point was that someone who is somewhat but not quite fully autistic is BAP - or specifically "half aspie, half NT." It's not a diagnosis, and a test may or may not place you there. It's something, that if you think it fits you, you can use to describe yourself.

And Moog made the same point I was trying to make earlier that you either didn't acknowledge or didn't get from my post:

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What one person thinks is a joke is actually just being rude for no good reason. I get joking. I don't think what you do is funny. People driven to angry, swearing retorts to your posts is not a sign that something humorous has occurred.

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Whether one is banned from this forum or not has nothing to do with neurotype, and everything to do with following the rules. Which means not provoking people, insulting people, attacking people etc.

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Not according to your complete misunderstanding of social mores. WP isn't that much different from anywhere else regarding what is considered acceptable behaviour.


I learned the hard way that "friendly teasing" works in levels and that what I can say to a friend is not the same thing I can say to an acquaintance, and what I can say to that acquaintance may not be something I can say to a stranger. Also, that it is possible to cross the line with friendly teasing and go too far. And sometimes, the person doing the joking is not necessarily the best judge of what the limits are. And I've had NTs cross this line with me, and I've crossed this line with NTs, so it's not even specifically a neurotype thing, but a social faux pas thing that some autistic people are simply more likely to commit, not that NTs are immune to it.

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Lol, I was never whinging, I was simply wondering if this dynamic was suggestive of NT status.


That poster probably said you were whinging because you characterized those who objected to your joking as "whining and crying."

If you were simply wondering, why make it insulting as well?



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05 Jun 2011, 11:02 am

swbluto wrote:
The majority of participants here have been banned on other forums, but aren't being banned here because it's their "safe haven". Whereas for me, I've never been banned on other forums because people get the concept of "teasing" and mockery and respond appropriately, but yet doing that very same thing here gets people's feathers ruffled because they take things so literally and whine and cry about it which attracts the attention of sympathetic moderators which is currently resulting in a ban being threatened.

So, in summary, aspies getted banned elsewhere but not here, while I've never been banned elsewhere but yet it's being threatened here. Does this FINALLY mean...

I AM NT? :lol:

I am not quite sure what you are getting at?



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05 Jun 2011, 11:28 am

I've been banned from other boards due to trolling before xD

However I like it here so I won't troll anybody. :)



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05 Jun 2011, 11:44 am

swbluto wrote:
Wooster wrote:
All this analysis is fine and dandy but being and as*hole in the end is simply being an as*hole - whether someone is AS or not.

And to make my earlier post clear: shitstirring and hurting people is mean, but whinging when you get a kick in the butt for it is stupid.


Lol, I was never whinging, I was simply wondering if this dynamic was suggestive of NT status.

And, if one is an as*hole and has aspergers, than that'd make them doubly AS, right? One for having Aspergers Syndrome and one for having the as*hole Syndrome. Hey, that'd make one the paragon of AS. It's be ironic if Ultra-AS's tended to get banned from the forum for being too AS.


Since you're not listening to any constructive feedback, this thread serves no purpose except as a platform for your trolling. Your official warning is in the post, and this thread is locked.

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