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22 Aug 2006, 8:55 am

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yeh i need somewhere that will ship to the uk though..and i can only pay with paypal..


If you're in the UK, surely you can get it through the NHS by claiming that you are very depressed?



I was thinking the same - if you are very depressed then you will get a prescription, and if you're not you shouldn't be taking it anyway. If you don't want to see a doctor maybe you could try 'St Johns Wort' which you can buy in pharmacies or online without a prescription.



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22 Aug 2006, 9:12 am

Also, eat tuna and honey. Not together, but add them to your diet. And milk (semi-skimmed) will keep you calm and reduce the anxiety. Flaxseed oil pills will condition your brain and eating a nutritious breakfast will lift your mood.

Exercise is also good. Running, aerobics, swimming and brisk walking are four good examples.


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22 Aug 2006, 9:48 am

SteelMaiden wrote:
Also, eat tuna and honey. Not together, but add them to your diet. And milk (semi-skimmed) will keep you calm and reduce the anxiety. Flaxseed oil pills will condition your brain and eating a nutritious breakfast will lift your mood.

Exercise is also good. Running, aerobics, swimming and brisk walking are four good examples.



WTF are Tuna and Honey meant to do for Depression. Or Milk?. Is there any proof of their benefits?. Personally I would not recommend any of those foods but Bananas, Walnuts and most fruit and veggies are of benefit. And, yes, Flax Oil is brilliant, I drink a couple of tablespoons every day, as does my son.



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22 Aug 2006, 12:51 pm

a good bifta now and then is extremely benifitial



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22 Aug 2006, 1:09 pm

Depression is often a cover for Loneliness. Some forms of depression is bad state of loneliness. So if a bad case of loneliness can be call depression then a mild loneliness can be called mild depression.



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22 Aug 2006, 1:54 pm

I was on 20mg of fluoxetine a day when typing up my PhD, a very stressful time. With my AS, or well for me at least, stress increases my obsessions. I end up thinking about the same thing over and over. What I was thinking about then, was not good, very negative.

Anyway, after two weeks or so my obsession went away, without me noticing. Just one day I realised, I’m not obsessing anymore. Silence! I also felt more confident, less negative and people said that I seemed happier. My mother thought I had a secret girlfriend! I was less worried when interacting with people, I had more confidence socially. I also felt more intelligent, fluoxetine causes new nerves to grow in the Hippocampus (where memories are thought to be located).

Now the down side. It made me a bit tired for the first two months (yawned allot) but that got better after I started (naughty me) skip pills, I effectively was on 10mg a day (a very small dose). The typical min dose is 20mg. I think this may indicate people with AS/autism are more sensitive to fluoxetine and need lower dose.

Also I ate like a pig, I felt hungry nearly all the time. I put on weight (ca. 15lb). But I was a bit underweight anyway. Now that I have finished my Phd, I don’t need fluoxetine. I had no trouble coming off it, but I did slowly reduce dose before eventually stop taking them.


The main thing is...

I don’t think fluoxetine directly stops depression. It can remove obsessive thoughts (rumination) about bad things. It stops your mind from getting stuck in a repetitive thought cycle. I ended up thinking about 10 things whereas before I only thought about one. If you are not thinking about that one something that is depressing, then you can end up feeling less depressed, thinking of other happy memories. It is also a very good thing to get out and about, exercise and maybe attend counselling as well. Ideally, it should not be used on its own.



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22 Aug 2006, 3:29 pm

no thanks i'd rather be depressed than not be able to have a orgasm or even get an erection. i use to take prozac when i was a teenager and it completely destroyed my sex drive. i'll never take meds for a mental problem ever again, i don't care how bad it gets.



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22 Aug 2006, 3:35 pm

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no thanks i'd rather be depressed than not be able to have a orgasm or even get an erection. i use to take prozac when i was a teenager and it completely destroyed my sex drive. i'll never take meds for a mental problem ever again, i don't care how bad it gets.


yes i was reading about that, no way am i even going to even touch prozac :roll:

edit: that said, maybe my sex drive is the problem?



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22 Aug 2006, 3:38 pm

Today I started to take 10mg fluoxetine a day. My problems sound like Diamonddavej's so I hope it will help me too. Just the thought of not having information obsessions gives me the creeps. Actually I don't want to do without them. I'll see what happens.



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22 Aug 2006, 3:39 pm

yeah i know its like; "hello im a young man i want to use my tool" i find that if i ever get depressed i open all the windows to let alot of light in, and i go for alot of walks and hikes in the mountains. exercise helps alot with depression



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22 Aug 2006, 3:39 pm

lastwish wrote:
waterdogs wrote:
no thanks i'd rather be depressed than not be able to have a orgasm or even get an erection. i use to take prozac when i was a teenager and it completely destroyed my sex drive. i'll never take meds for a mental problem ever again, i don't care how bad it gets.


yes i was reading about that, no way am i even going to even touch prozac :roll:


Sex drive is not a problem for me. I don't have a relationship and I also don't want one. I have a child to take care of. I don't want love and such to interfere at this point in my life.



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22 Aug 2006, 3:46 pm

Fluoxetine was the first drug that my doctor gave me, I did not like it much as it made me feel sick all the time.
You can buy it from www.inhousedrugstore.co.uk but why not just ask your doctor for it.
I think one of the best drugs is Clomipramine, as it helps with obsessive thoughts and reduces social anxiety.
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22 Aug 2006, 3:52 pm

i think alot of people take drugs like that because it makes them feel special, when i was in the mental hospital; and we would all have "group" in the mornings people almost gave a sermon and had church about what kind of drug they were taking, what it was for, how much of it they took, it was really sad from my point of view i couldn't believe it i just kep thinking to myself, these people are talking about taking their meds like they won the goddamn lottery in life or something. i just wanted the hell out of there. but i participated. yes i was well behaved young man while i was in there.



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22 Aug 2006, 4:03 pm

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i think alot of people take drugs like that because it makes them feel special, when i was in the mental hospital; and we would all have "group" in the mornings people almost gave a sermon and had church about what kind of drug they were taking, what it was for, how much of it they took, it was really sad from my point of view i couldn't believe it i just kep thinking to myself, these people are talking about taking their meds like they won the goddamn lottery in life or something. i just wanted the hell out of there. but i participated. yes i was well behaved young man while i was in there.


That is not my intention with this topic. I'm looking for people who have taken fluoxetine and their experiences. I'm telling my doctor what I want to take. I don't want anyone (including doctors) to tell me what I should or should not take. This topic is part of my personal research.

BTW: I'm in The Netherlands (Europe) and taking meds isn't something to bragg about in general here. Most people here keep it for themselves and don't talk about it.

BTW2: I'm not taking Prozac, but fluoxetine from Sandoz. Is more or less the same thing, but I'm not taking a brand, I'm taking a pill with a fluoxetine.



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22 Aug 2006, 4:11 pm

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I'm telling my doctor what I want to take.
here in america this is whats wrong with people. they see a commercial for something and run right to there doctors and say; 'i saw this t.v. commercial ad, and i want this pill" 9/10 they get it. i don't know how it is in europe but atleast where im from people brag about what prescriptions there on. its really messed up



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22 Aug 2006, 4:25 pm

We don't have commercials for medicins I think. Only aspirine maybe. But definitely not for SSRI's and such.

When my doctor suggested that I'd take meds I was shocked and very angry with her. There probably will be a lot of people taking SSRI's here, but it's definitely not something you tell everybody, just some very good friends, a partner or close family maybe. I have never seen someone taking meds (SSRI's and so) in public.

I didn't tell my doctor I want fluoxetine because of a commercial I saw. I have never seen a commercial for fluoxetine in my life. I think Lilli has or had commercials for Prozac, don't they? Are those commercials on the internet?