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14 Jun 2011, 12:06 pm

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I'm a corrections officer for new York state.


My cousin works for NY State Corrections in Western New York. What part of the state do you work in? I think he has worked at Sing Sing, Greenhaven and I think he might be at Attica right now.


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14 Jun 2011, 12:15 pm

If you say you are homosexual, wouldn't you automatically get placed in a protective area? Wouldn't it be easier to just say "I'm gay" then to try convincing them I am too autistic for the general population?



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14 Jun 2011, 12:57 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
If you say you are homosexual, wouldn't you automatically get placed in a protective area? Wouldn't it be easier to just say "I'm gay" then to try convincing them I am too autistic for the general population?


They will find out you are not they will put you general population and the label of homosexual will still be on you plus you will be seen as weak for being in protective custody. You will be victimized. Its better to over play your autism you cannot ever not be autistic but you could easily be found not to be gay.


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14 Jun 2011, 12:58 pm

i'm pretty certain i would be a model prisoner. i would do all tasks as quickly and efficiently as possible, i would be helpful to other inmates and guards, i would have a positive and cheerful attitude, i would be friendly to everyone, i would share my knowledge and expertise whenever possible, i would work to advocate for improved living conditions... and i would therefore manage to become a target for violence and bullying from every direction because i am insufferable at best.

i think that even the air i breathe is an annoyance to my peers, so i don't imagine prison would be any different.


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14 Jun 2011, 1:07 pm

Others ways you get kept seperate from the other imates is let a guard catch you trying to kill yourself, get caught with a weapon, setting off fires, get caught making alcohol several times, and over flowing your toilet. You only get a few months added but you get away from the other inmates if you keep doing it.


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14 Jun 2011, 1:14 pm

Todesking wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
If you say you are homosexual, wouldn't you automatically get placed in a protective area? Wouldn't it be easier to just say "I'm gay" then to try convincing them I am too autistic for the general population?


They will find out you are not they will put you general population and the label of homosexual will still be on you plus you will be seen as weak for being in protective custody. You will be victimized. Its better to over play your autism you cannot ever not be autistic but you could easily be found not to be gay.

How could they possibly find out someone isn't homosexual? You cannot prove this sort of thing.



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14 Jun 2011, 1:17 pm

Todesking wrote:
Others ways you get kept seperate from the other imates is let a guard catch you trying to kill yourself, get caught with a weapon, setting off fires, get caught making alcohol several times, and over flowing your toilet. You only get a few months added but you get away from the other inmates if you keep doing it.



I wonder if there are any inmates that actually try faking they are going to commit suicide? I can just use sheets and hang them up and make it like a rope and wait until the guard walks by and then stand on the chair and and put the sheet around my neck and pretend I am about to do it just as he walks by my cell.

I wonder if any inmates have actually died that way because they do it and then choke to death because they thought the guard would see it and stop it?


Or maybe I will just skip that and over flow the toilet instead.



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14 Jun 2011, 1:24 pm

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I wonder if there are any inmates that actually try faking they are going to commit suicide? I can just use sheets and hang them up and make it like a rope and wait until the guard walks by and then stand on the chair and and put the sheet around my neck and pretend I am about to do it just as he walks by my cell.

I wonder if any inmates have actually died that way because they do it and then choke to death because they thought the guard would see it and stop it?

Or maybe I will just skip that and over flow the toilet instead.


These are things my friends have done to get out doing things or to get moved to a different area. They don't hang themselves you put your underware or a bedsheet around your neck then tie it to your bunk and you sqaut down to make the sheet or your underware go tight enough looking then you make loud choking sounds. You can just stand up to save yourself. It also helps to have someone yell for the guards when you are doing it.

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How could they possibly find out someone isn't homosexual? You cannot prove this sort of thing.


When the other gays snitch you out for not having sex with them. Gay people are like autistic they can sense when people are like them they call it gaydar. :roll: Are you willing to do some gay sex to stay in protective custody you might as well go to genersal population and have gay sex there. :roll: I am sure they have had straight inmates claim to be gay before.


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14 Jun 2011, 1:25 pm

I'm really angry and fly off the handle. I would probably end up getting in a bunch of fights. My father (who isn't an aspie but seems to have some traits) was in prison before I was born. He started off doing whatever he wanted, he ran gambling stuff in there & would get sent to the hole but then he realized that to get out sooner that he would have to behave or whatever so he started acting remorseful and got out early for good behavior.



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14 Jun 2011, 1:32 pm

Todesking wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I wonder if there are any inmates that actually try faking they are going to commit suicide? I can just use sheets and hang them up and make it like a rope and wait until the guard walks by and then stand on the chair and and put the sheet around my neck and pretend I am about to do it just as he walks by my cell.

I wonder if any inmates have actually died that way because they do it and then choke to death because they thought the guard would see it and stop it?

Or maybe I will just skip that and over flow the toilet instead.


These are things my friends have done to get out doing things or to get moved to a different area. They don't hang themselves you put your underware or a bedsheet around your neck then tie it to your bunk and you sqaut down to make the sheet or your underware go tight enough looking then you make loud choking sounds. You can just stand up to save yourself. It also helps to have someone yell for the guards when you are doing it.

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How could they possibly find out someone isn't homosexual? You cannot prove this sort of thing.


When the other gays snitch you out for not having sex with them. :roll: Are you willing to do some gay sex to stay in protective custody you might as well go to genersal population and have gay sex there. :roll: I am sure they have had straight inmates claim to be gay before.

Not everyone who is gay has sex. All I would have to say is I am gay but celibate. How could anyone prove otherwise? No one can read my mind or thoughts.
It's probably not the same for women, though.
If I were a guy in this situation, I think I would try to get into protective custody somehow, and hope I stayed there.



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14 Jun 2011, 1:36 pm

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Not everyone who is gay has sex. All I would have to say is I am gay but celibate.


You might not have a choice if you have sex in prison or not. A much bigger inmate might decide for you if they think you are gay and they like the way you look.


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14 Jun 2011, 1:37 pm

Todesking wrote:
You might not have a choice if you have sex in prison or not. A much bigger inmate might decide for you nif they think you are gay and they like the way you look.


Don't those who are openly gay get much more homophobic abuse and mistreatment than those who are not?



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14 Jun 2011, 1:54 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
How could they possibly find out someone isn't homosexual? You cannot prove this sort of thing.


Ha ha, prison is not a democracy. They don't have to prove anything. They can do whatever they want with you, and you have no rights to speak of. If you're very lucky your parents will pay for a lawyer to whom you can complain about your treatment. If not, you can write letters to whomever you believe cares about your prison problems with your pencil-stub till someone steals it from you to use as a weapon.

If you told them you were a celibate homosexual I'm sure they'd all have a good laugh at you.



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14 Jun 2011, 2:12 pm

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Don't those who are openly gay get much more homophobic abuse and mistreatment than those who are not?


That's why they are put into protective custody they do the same with child molesters if they don't they would be harmed the minute their crimes or sexual preferences are known. You could also get someone who accuses you of being gay or a child predator who tells everyone that will listen what they think you are and it could mean trouble for you even if you are innocent of being gay or a child sex predator.


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14 Jun 2011, 2:30 pm

I like this topic and spent some time thinking about prison because it used be a fear of mine even though I don't commit criminal offenses(probably from tv, especially Oz).
Unless you were accused and convicted even though inoccent I think the type of crime you commit may be what places you in what kind of prison. There's also minimum security prisons for non-violent criminals but I'm not sure if that means you wouldn't be put in regular prison with the violent. Or, how "non-violent" the minimum security ones are. But people can hurt and manipulate even not being violent.
I would be in bad shape if I was sent to any prison.
If I was in trouble I hope I'd have professionals telling the judge to put me somewhere safer and the reasons why.



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14 Jun 2011, 2:44 pm

In my interest in prisons I came across slang they use and child molestors are called "chomo's".
They definitely hate them in prison and I think part of the reason is because a lot of the may have been abused. And I also read about their criminal code which that goes against for most of them.