How often do you wish you were an NT?

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29 Jun 2011, 4:16 pm

Well....if society actually let me be Autistic, then I will be quite happy with being Autistic. But because I'm practically ''not allowed'' to be Autistic, it makes life mighty hard. And it's difficult to not care about what others think and just be weird, because I'm the type of Aspie who naturally is half in the NT world and half in the Aspie world, so basically I ''fall between the cracks'' with this whole thing. I'm too self-aware to not care, but I'm too clueless to conform.

This world values those with social skills. This is why I can't get a job. Retail = interacting with customers. Admin = dealing with customers over the phone. Interviews for anything = having to be confident in what you're saying. Every job online either says ''needs to have excellent customer service'', ''needs experience'', ''needs a driving license '', ''needs A-levels/good grades'', ''needs to be able to multitask'', ''needs to be math-literate'', ''needs to be confident/qualified'', and the list goes on and on, everything in the list involving phenomenons what my disability is against. So how can I not wish to be NT? I know NTs don't tick all the boxes, but they at least have that knack with interacting with customers. Even shy, socially-phobic NTs say the right thing when they do open their mouths.

The world expect too much from people. Unfortunately, you can't get much expectations out of me, no matter hard I try.

Me, I'm completely hopeless, especially with having a low IQ and poor memory, along with the rest what stands in the way of me getting a job. And now the government are cutting all the disability help services (to save money just to bail other countries out), so the government just thinks that everybody's confident and socially normal - when not all of us are! HEEEEELP!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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29 Jun 2011, 6:47 pm

I never wish I were NT. I am satisfied with who I am. Autism has given me wonderfully fun special intense interests and talent-savant skills that I would never wish to give up. Yes, I have challenges, but doesn't everyone? I try to focus on the positives.


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29 Jun 2011, 6:49 pm

I don't wish I was NT. Not because I like having AS, it's just that the thought of being NT doesn't enter my mind.

I don't always like myself, but I don't really think about what might have been.


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29 Jun 2011, 7:05 pm

What I wonder is for everyone who imagines what it's like to be NT:

Do you imagine the ways in which you feel your life would be different from an external perspective or do you imagine how your thinking might be different? I guess the latter can include the former.

When I think about what my life might be like if I were NT, I can't imagine what my consciousness and thinking would be like. I mean, I don't imagine there's a huge gulf between autistic and NT but some things like social imagination are a mystery to me.



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29 Jun 2011, 8:23 pm

I don't wish to be NT for the sake of being NT, but I do wish for whatever that would induce cooperation and honesty from others whenever I desired it. If that means being NT in my case, then I want to be NT.

There was a time, however, where I did wish to be someone else, someone where "saying the right thing" just came naturally to them. I swear I put so much effort into this whole socialization aspect just to have it fail every single f*****g time, that I've simply resigned from it. It doesn't mean I've resigned from life, no, but I have redirected my concerns and energy to more productive avenues.



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30 Jun 2011, 10:35 am

The goodness what comes out of being NT is they usually can make friends with out being too horrible or too nice. When you're too nice, you get took advantage of, and even laughed at. When you're too horrible, you lose friends and will never get anywhere. When you're nice enough to be friendly and empathetic, but ''horrible'' enough to be assertive and confident in yourself, you fit in better. (I don't mean ''horrible'' as in horrible, I just mean you need to be just a teeny bit cocky, and not appear to be too nice all the time. You want people to want to be friends with you, but not want to take advantage of your niceness).

To be ''in between'' like that is the hardest thing in the world for me. So I just stick to being too sweet.


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30 Jun 2011, 11:56 am

Verdandi wrote:
What I wonder is for everyone who imagines what it's like to be NT.


I've always imagine that it is pretty bland.


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30 Jun 2011, 12:26 pm

Very rarely. I forget that other people exist outside of myself, and that there are people who are way different from me. My brain, for whatever reason, can't actually comprehend that there are so many "other things" going on "out there".
The only time I notice or wish to be more like others, is when I want to communicate effectively and am unable. Or if I must stay in a social situation, I wish that I could feel enjoyment instead of panic and claustrophobia.


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30 Jun 2011, 12:31 pm

Malisha wrote:
Never.
The worst of my suffering was from being undiagnosed, and misdiagnosed. Finally understanding MYSELF was all I really wanted.


Yeah. I used to want to be like my peers all the time when I was younger. It's still a little difficult accepting myself, but for the most part, I'm happy.



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01 Jul 2011, 3:56 pm

Quite often; but I accept the fact that I am (and will always be) not NT.



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02 Jul 2011, 1:20 am

I compare myself every day. The only thing going for me is I've stopped trying to fit in as much and I'm trying to show more of who I am instead of adjusting and trying to cope with everyone else. I've got a LONG way to go before I'm at the point where I can connect with people and be around them comfortably, though. I'm just a weird guy in a weird world.



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02 Jul 2011, 11:08 am

If I was given the choice of being autistic or not be born at all I would have chosen not be born at all. All I have experienced is hatred and torment no matter how I act or behave. I have never found a good paying job or have been able to live by myself I would be better off dead. At every job I was the butt of jokes and a target for as*holes frustrations. I hate life so much I do what I can to stay away from people because everytime I leave the house and see people enjoying their lives it fills me with rage because I know Aspergers has cheated me out of a normal life. A lot of people would be happier if I was never born everyone in my family and former co-workers wouldn't miss me one bit. :x

I think the people with Aspergers who say they would never wish to become NT are just lying to themselves. All I have encounterd in life has been negative and horrible do to Aspergers I cringe whenever I hear someone call Aspegers a gift. :(


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