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09 Jul 2011, 6:01 am

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Mozart and the Whale is about people diagnosed with AS.

Temple Grandin, Snow Cake, and Rain Man are all about people diagnosed with autism.


Sorry, mean't the real people not the movie characters.



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09 Jul 2011, 6:19 am

cyberdad wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
Mozart and the Whale is about people diagnosed with AS.

Temple Grandin, Snow Cake, and Rain Man are all about people diagnosed with autism.


Sorry, mean't the real people not the movie characters.


Jerry and Mary Newport are both diagnosed with AS as far as I know.

Or did you mean the movies were about real people?

I am lost now.



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09 Jul 2011, 6:24 am

Verdandi wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
Mozart and the Whale is about people diagnosed with AS.

Temple Grandin, Snow Cake, and Rain Man are all about people diagnosed with autism.


Sorry, mean't the real people not the movie characters.


Jerry and Mary Newport are both diagnosed with AS as far as I know.

Or did you mean the movies were about real people?

I am lost now.


Sorry Verdandi
I mean't the real people. Apart from Temple Grandin both Einstein and Mozart (who have been the subjects of movies) had speech delays, Einstein's was somewhat more severe than Mozart's.
Despite knowing this information years before my daughter was born, I have subsequently never been able to confirm this information was correct?.



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09 Jul 2011, 6:31 am

cyberdad wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
Mozart and the Whale is about people diagnosed with AS.

Temple Grandin, Snow Cake, and Rain Man are all about people diagnosed with autism.


Sorry, mean't the real people not the movie characters.


Jerry and Mary Newport are both diagnosed with AS as far as I know.

Or did you mean the movies were about real people?

I am lost now.


Sorry Verdandi
I mean't the real people. Apart from Temple Grandin both Einstein and Mozart (who have been the subjects of movies) had speech delays, Einstein's was somewhat more severe than Mozart's.
Despite knowing this information years before my daughter was born, I have subsequently never been able to confirm this information was correct?.


Mozart and the Whale is about Jerry and Mary Newport, who met at an Asperger's Syndrome support group that Jerry was facilitating. The name is a reference to their Halloween costumes.



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09 Jul 2011, 6:51 am

Mozart and the Whale
Adam
Snow Cake
I am Khan
Ben X
House of Cards
Molly
The Other Sister
Dancer in the Dark
The Pit
Simple Simon



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09 Jul 2011, 2:01 pm

It’s funny how two different people diagnosed with AS can watch a movie about AS, and one of them will love it because they think it’s incredibly accurate and the other will hate it because they think it’s incredibly inaccurate. I could barely relate to anyone in Mozart and the Whale aside from a few traits here and there, but I’ve heard others praise it for its accuracy. On the other hand, I’ve heard others criticize Adam for not being accurate, but I could relate to it so well that it may as well have been a movie about me. I think it’s important to remember that we’re all on a spectrum, and not everyone with AS will be the same.



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09 Jul 2011, 2:23 pm

Jory wrote:
It’s funny how two different people diagnosed with AS can watch a movie about AS, and one of them will love it because they think it’s incredibly accurate and the other will hate it because they think it’s incredibly inaccurate. I could barely relate to anyone in Mozart and the Whale aside from a few traits here and there, but I’ve heard others praise it for its accuracy. On the other hand, I’ve heard others criticize Adam for not being accurate, but I could relate to it so well that it may as well have been a movie about me. I think it’s important to remember that we’re all on a spectrum, and not everyone with AS will be the same.


I feel pretty mixed about Mozart and the Whale. I could relate to it more than I expected to, in some ways, and in other ways I thought it seemed pretty exaggerated. I want to check out Adam sometime.

And, I totally agree with you about how we're all very different no matter what. I go to a (currently small) Aspie support group, I have no doubt that every person in the group has AS, and being in the group helps me somewhat. But I don't think any of my really close friends, the people I love being around and get along with the most, are on the spectrum at all.



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09 Jul 2011, 2:39 pm

I also have mixed feelings about Mozart and the Whale. It definitely IS exaggerated and too stereotyped in my opinion. My impression was that the writers and producers did not bother to really learn about the nature of AS but only picked a few traits, which they overused. The main thing that bothered me was that all the so-called Aspies talked too loudly all the time. That got to be really annoying after a few minutes. Many Aspies will often talk either too softly or too loudly (presumably from lack of regular speech usage), but wiht the withdrawn nature and lack of confidence, I would guess that most of us speak too softly most of the time (sounds like a good poll idea to me). Two things DID get my attention as being right on target though. The stacks of newspapers in Donald's apartment looked so much like the stacks of boxes in my apartment (collected items) and the visual map that pops up in front of him while driving his cab is so much like my own visual memory of things, although still quite ovverdone.

A much, much better movie about AS (and my favorite) is always Ben X, but you can only get the widescreen version in the Flemish language with English subtitles. It is still well worth reading those subtitles for an hour and a half to see that movie.

Then there is always the quintessential Rain Man, but evenybody knows about that one.

One that is often missed is "The Last Picture Show" (1971). Billy, the kid who sweeps the store is autistic.

Here is a late addition of a link to a list I found while trying to get info on some of the movies listed by Chenjiringu. I know there are many more than shown on this short list though.

http://www.imdb.com/list/0sigYQ1Icp0/



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09 Jul 2011, 4:23 pm

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Mary and MAx is the best aspie film by far, very charming.


Seen it. Made me feel like an idiot, but I could certainly relate to it. Unfortunately I saw it in my essential skills class, so the other misfit kids (me being the only aspie) were saying assburgers, and that people with "assburgers'' were ret*d because we can't tell what a smile is or not. So I asked them if they thought I was ret*d, which got the desired result. :)


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10 Jul 2011, 1:07 am

TTRSage wrote:
A much, much better movie about AS (and my favorite) is always Ben X, but you can only get the widescreen version in the Flemish language with English subtitles. It is still well worth reading those subtitles for an hour and a half to see that movie.


Widescreen is the best and I find subtitles easier than listening anyway.

Ben X is surprisingly good. It's sort of emotionally intense and I think stopping partway through would be such a bad idea. It's on Netflix Instant, so I didn't even have to leave the house to get a DVD. :)

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10 Jul 2011, 3:03 am

While it's not 'about' autism the film The Man Who Wasn't There (Coen brothers starring Billy Bob Thornton) focuses on a man who is likely an Aspie. It's also excellent. It's rather hilarious despite being solemn most of the time (my favorite type of film).



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10 Jul 2011, 4:49 am

I recently watched 'Zodiac' and felt the makers were trying to hint that the main character (played by Jake Gyllenhaal) had Aspergers, although it wasn't mentioned at all. It's based on a true story and I don't know what the real Robert Graysmith is actually like, but I've read that he's an eccentric obsessive and doesn't answer his own phone.



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22 Jul 2011, 8:17 pm

Nobody here seems to have mentioned a 2010 movie called "Fly Away" starring Beth Broderick (Sabrina) and Ashley Rickards (One Tree Hill)
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/flyaway/

Ashley Rickards performance as a LFA teenager was incredibly realistic. The movie had some important themes;
- Rickards character was disruptive at special school and the advice to her mother (Beth Broderick) was that she should be institutionalised
- The mother fought tooth and nail to keep her daughter home but realised with time that being a single mother she could not cope with her daughter's meltdowns and the need for constant care.
- the general public were generally not understanding of the mother's problems (not surprising) one lady scolding her for bringing her child into public.
- Eventually (not unlike Rainman) the mother agrees that the best thing for her daughter is to be institutionalized as it was "all for the best".

Like Rainman the ending was somewhat disappointing, I would have hoped that the mother found true love (from her neighbour played by Greg Germann) and saved her daughter from the prospect of living in a institution. Secondly the institution seemed a little too good to be true? like autism heaven. I'm not sure if the writer was trying to send sought of message? in this day and age where movies have the opportunity to educate, the opportunity was missed for demonstrating you could bring the local community together to support this young woman in her struggles. The impression it left me is society (at least in middle class America) still has no time for autism.



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22 Jul 2011, 9:20 pm

I've seen Mozart and the Whale and Adam. I felt Adam was better but Mozart and the Whale potentially provides a greater spectrum of AS with multiple autistic characters.


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22 Jul 2011, 10:09 pm

The main character in August Rush has a lot of Aspie characteristics.



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22 Jul 2011, 10:45 pm

Although the film doesn't give him an official diagnosis, I wonder if Jack Nicholson's character in "As Good As It Gets" isn't a little aspergerish. For sure, he has OCD--but so do some people with AS.

Perhaps also, the title character in "Little Voice"--whose social phobia is coupled with an amazing ability to mimic famous singers from the big band era.