Does touching hair count as stimming?

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05 Aug 2011, 8:46 pm

Sometimes it feels relaxing but sometimes it just feels like it's a dissipation of inner energy. Like if I don't do it, I will have a seizure because of mental pressure build-up.



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05 Aug 2011, 8:59 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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Hair 'twirling' that includes repetitive stroking with both hands as well as stroking hair over lips for hours at a time doesn't count as a stim?

I stand corrected. I have no stims. Go me!


I did all this, and I used to chew on my hair after I twirled it up.

I don't remember why or when I stopped. I just stopped doing that and several other stims in my early 20s. I do recall my ex getting on me about stimming, actually demanding to know why I was doing certain things, and otherwise harassing me for them in other ways. That may have something to do with it.


The more I need to supress the urge 'out there', the longer I give in to it at home. It's a fairly easily formula. I've get accused of feeling guilty when I do it therefore I must have done something to feel guilty about - it's one thing when a parent makes those accusations and another when a spouse does. I do it because a) I have the overwhelming urge b) it relieves the anxiety of forcing myself to not do it c) because I like to. It's my hair damn it. If I want to play with it, I will - I'm not hurting anybody nor myself. As a kid i used to suck on my hair but by my teens I found it kinda gross. I'm actually rather fond of those rare bored moments becasue I will microbraid my entire head then braid each individual braid and just keep braiding until I have a big, whole head braid - undo it all and start over. (I have been told this all qualifies as hair 'twirling' by a psych...)

Whether thats AS, ADD or - as suggested - 'just a fidget' is kind of irrelevent. It's fairly common. And probably the reason my hair has always been long despite the sensory nightmare hair brushing was as a kid.



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06 Aug 2011, 1:28 am

I am a male almost in my thirties and I never knew people might consider twirling your hair as socially unacceptable for males... If my hands do not have anything to do I will be twirling and touching my long hair sometimes without realizing I´m doing it, other times I´m totally playing with my hair doing it all consciously and get great kicks out of it whether in public or not. I might be more aware of it from now on but no one has never really told me I shouldn´t be doing it.

Even know I just realized as I stopped typing and started to read what I had typed my hand was instantly twirling my hair. From behind my right ear as usually.



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06 Aug 2011, 4:27 am

draelynn wrote:
The more I need to supress the urge 'out there', the longer I give in to it at home. It's a fairly easily formula. I've get accused of feeling guilty when I do it therefore I must have done something to feel guilty about - it's one thing when a parent makes those accusations and another when a spouse does. I do it because a) I have the overwhelming urge b) it relieves the anxiety of forcing myself to not do it c) because I like to. It's my hair damn it. If I want to play with it, I will - I'm not hurting anybody nor myself. As a kid i used to suck on my hair but by my teens I found it kinda gross. I'm actually rather fond of those rare bored moments becasue I will microbraid my entire head then braid each individual braid and just keep braiding until I have a big, whole head braid - undo it all and start over. (I have been told this all qualifies as hair 'twirling' by a psych...)

Whether thats AS, ADD or - as suggested - 'just a fidget' is kind of irrelevent. It's fairly common. And probably the reason my hair has always been long despite the sensory nightmare hair brushing was as a kid.


Come to think of it - I don't twirl my hair or chew on it any more, but I do run my fingers through it.

I never could get the hang of braiding.



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06 Aug 2011, 1:46 pm

Nind M, Kellett M (2002). 'Responding to individuals with severe learning difficulties and stereotyped behaviour' wrote:
Stimming is a repetitive BODY movement that is hypothesized to stimulate one or more senses. The term is shorthand for self-stimulation. Repetitive movement, or stereotypy, is often referred to as stimming under the hypothesis that it has a function related to sensory input.

Autistic individuals are sometimes known to stim. In some cases it helps with thinking or concentration while in others it can assist in bleeding off excessive excitement about something.
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06 Aug 2011, 2:41 pm

Avengilante wrote:
Nind M, Kellett M (2002). 'Responding to individuals with severe learning difficulties and stereotyped behaviour' wrote:
Stimming is a repetitive BODY movement that is hypothesized to stimulate one or more senses. The term is shorthand for self-stimulation. Repetitive movement, or stereotypy, is often referred to as stimming under the hypothesis that it has a function related to sensory input.

Autistic individuals are sometimes known to stim. In some cases it helps with thinking or concentration while in others it can assist in bleeding off excessive excitement about something.
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http://autism.wikia.com/wiki/Stimming

It's about a lot more than simply full-body movements.


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06 Aug 2011, 3:33 pm

Avengilante wrote:
Nind M, Kellett M (2002). 'Responding to individuals with severe learning difficulties and stereotyped behaviour' wrote:
Stimming is a repetitive BODY movement that is hypothesized to stimulate one or more senses. The term is shorthand for self-stimulation. Repetitive movement, or stereotypy, is often referred to as stimming under the hypothesis that it has a function related to sensory input.

Autistic individuals are sometimes known to stim. In some cases it helps with thinking or concentration while in others it can assist in bleeding off excessive excitement about something.


This is far too brief an explanation of stimming, and it doesn't really support what you're saying. In addition to "bleeding off excess excitement" it says "In some cases, it helps with thinking or concentration." Which isn't about anxiety at all. The previous paragraph also suggests a hypothesis that it has a function related to sensory input.

As for body movements - fingers and hair are part of the body. The DSM-IV criteria says:

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3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)


That is, stereotypy covers a lot of territory.

Here's a not nearly exhaustive list of stims that actually includes twirling hair:

http://www.tsbvi.edu/seehear/archive/ma ... html#Chart



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05 Nov 2011, 3:50 pm

I play with my hair CONSTANTLY. My parents and husband are always reminding me that I'm doing it.I either get large pieces and go in and out between my fingers, or really fine pieces and go under my nails. I try to remind myself not to do it when I'm in public, but I just can't seem to stop. I've done it my whole life.Even when I was little, I used to play with my parents' hair, and sometimes my husband even catches me trying to twirl his hair. :P I do the same thing with different fabrics...I especially love twirling fringe and getting small pieces of it under my nails. I don't know how to stop, even when I want to. It just feels so good.



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05 Nov 2011, 4:02 pm

I completely disagree with the person who said only major body movements count as stimming. What about vocal stims?
You're taking the term "body movement" far too literally. Rocking is a body movement, but so is blinking, shivering, leg bouncing etc.



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05 Nov 2011, 4:05 pm

Guineapigged wrote:
I completely disagree with the person who said only major body movements count as stimming. What about vocal stims?
You're taking the term "body movement" far too literally. Rocking is a body movement, but so is blinking, shivering, leg bouncing etc.


Great post! :)